. >> david soucie is with me as well. david, i know you're just hearing this news this morning as well. >> one of the things that jumps out at first again, as mary said, i'm not sure we're accurate of the number of people on board, but for the families needing to get information right now, that's where the primary concern would be. the indonesian government has already put out the search and rescue. we have search and rescue teams outlo outlookinlooking. it is a rescue now. there's every hope that there is survivors on board. so let's keep our hopes up about that. >> she mentioned the concerns over the ability of rescuers in that region. air asia passenger jet that she mentioned that crashed back in december that killed 162 people, because of that, that prompted the government to introduce new regulations in safety in that region when it came to air travel. do you know what safety procedures were implements? >> they were a result of increased audits. so the indonesian government has increased their audited at the direction

me now, richard quest, cnn safety analyst, and former faa accident investigator and inspector, david soucie, and david gallow. he co-led the search for air france flight 447. richard, first of all, before we go to the magic wall here, are you surprised that they're not going to actually examine this thing until wednesday? >> of course they're going to examine it beforehand, they're just not going to, basically, formally declare that they've got a result or anything until wednesday. but everybody gets that. everybody dribbles into toulouse over the next couple of days. the piece doesn't get there until sunday if ntsb, boeing have to get there. the malaysians have to get there, everybody else to look at it. they'll be looking at it sooner, but wednesday's the day for the analysis. >> let's look at what we have here. you have a couple of different boards here looking at the currents and the search area. what does this show? >> what it shows very clearly is that this is the search area and the debris that we're talking about, the flapper-on obviously went into the water somewhere around here an

joining me now is cnn safety analyst and former safety inspector david soucie. see you, david. officials were so positive, it seemed at first, that this could have been from the mh370 mainly because it's the only 777 missing from that region. so how does this news strike you? >> well, it's really kind of contradictory to me, which we're used to in this investigation. the malaysian government comes out and says, yes, it's definitely this, a week later they say we're not so sure about it. so it's not uncommon what's going on and tragically for those who are the loved ones who were on the airplane, they are being pulled back and forth. but there's an explanation for this kind of information back and forth and that is that who it is that is saying it and who it is that has to bear the responsibility of saying this is 100% from that airplane and that's the burden on that is on the french right now. these are professional investigators. i've been to this laboratory. this is the best of the best and if they are not 100% certain that this is from that airplane, they are

. >> david soucie is a former safety inspector for the faa. so for the first 40 minutes of this flight, up to that point, everything has been routine. >> mm-hmm, yes. >> everything was routine until now. two minutes after talking with air traffic control, 40 minutes into the flight, the plane's transponder goes dark. >> the plane's transponder is effectively the instrument by which sends out a signal to air traffic control. it tells you what height it's at, which direction, and what speed it's traveling. suddenly, this giant 777 is blind to the world. >> and there's no easy explanation for why it happened. >> either it was intentional and someone tried to turn all of those systems off at once, or the pilot was unable to communicate, kept from communicating, or there was a mechanical failure of some kind that took all those systems out at one time. >> then, muninutes after the transresponder stops, the 777 makes an unexpected turn, heading west and way off-course. >> that the plane turned immediately after the transponder went off is completely

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. >>> now, david soucie, a former faa safety inspector and david gallo, the director of special projects at woods hold oce oceanographic. the prime minuister said it was is from mh370. the french prosecutor said it's a strong presumption. why the discrepancy? >> they should have been from the beginning, honestly. you know that this has been going on forever, since the aircraft disappeared, the malaysians made announcements and retracted. wait a minute, we said that too soon. it's not uncommon in this multi-national group to have this miscommunication going on at all. >> david gallo, the new animation i want to ask you about. it was released today by the australian investigators. it's fascinating to see. it shows where the floating debris could have drifted, taking everything into account. it covers, understandably so, a vast area of the indian ocean. with that in mind with your expertise going forward now, where do investigators look? >> well, for more floating debris, they could be looking any place. with time, the ocean disburses all of those items that began their journey in one spot,

theories and things like that so i think it's a good thing, yesterda fred. >> jim bittermann, david soucie, appreciate it. >>> if you have questions and you want to tweet us, tweet us at #mh 370qs. >>> what's behind the murder rate on the rise in baltimore and other big cities? police are trying to figure it out and perhaps fix it. >>> plus, another drone flies dangerously close to a plane in jfk airport in new york city and now homeland security is warning that they could be used as weapons of terror. that story next. just about anywhere you can use splenda®... ...no calorie sweetener. splenda® lets you experience... ...the joy of sugar... ...without all the calories. think sugar, say splenda® >>> and this just in to cnn. the top law enforcement official in texas was booked today on three criminal charges. ken paxton, the texas attorney general, faces two counts of fraud and one of failing to register as an investment advisor. paxton turned himself in at the cullen county jail and was freed on $35,000 bail. felony indictments are due to be unsealed at any time now. >>> a drone came danger

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let me bring in cnn safety analyst david soucie. do we know what happened?al glitch? >> nothing typical about this. this is something the faa and congress has approved hundreds of millions of dollars to make sure this shouldn't happen. this rarely happens except for the one time about a year ago in chicago when someone tampered with it and actually caused a fire in a control center. >> i remember that. how does something like this happen? >> it happens here -- this is something that i believe in early reports shows that there's a power shutdown at the washington air traffic control center, at the air root traffic control center. that sets off so many different problems. but the real root problems is going to be that when that power shuts off, there's supposed to be a back-up system like you buy those battery systems for your systems at home that makes sure when your power goes out, you have continuous power. and these are millions of dollars worth of products that make sure the systems don't have to reboot every time there's a loss of power. it appears that

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. >> david soucie, thank you so much. we want to thank you for your insight into this. now, we go to indra petersonss. tell us if there are any updates? >> reporter: there has been a sighting in a district where a community said they see an airline flying really close to the left but they are still trying to confirm that. and in the area of oksibil, if i'm not mistaken, is the area where it was reported by the transportation minister that the contact was lost at the time. and then to get to that point, if it's correct where the flight is missing, then it's going to taken three days due to the condition of the area. they're on the valley. they're on the mountain site of jayapura, and it's really hard to get there by land. they cannot continue the rescue search. they put it on hold until tomorrow. >> let me understand. this victor. you say there were reports of planes flying pretty low there. >> reporter: correct. >> are these reports referring to the search or reports around the time that this plane disappeared? >> reporter: it was around the time of the airplane disappe

let's talk more about this with cnn safety analyst david soucie and cnn contributor david gallow directortute. can experts term what might have happened to the plane from the information they can get from a piece of wreckage? >> well, not really give information as to what happened. what it might do is improve their ability to search for the aircraft because of the fact that it may narrow the search area if indeed this part came off of the aircraft as a result of a rapid descent. so there's something that can be gained from this certainly. >> but certainly not. a lot of the information they need is what happened especially in that cockpit and they need the voice recorders for that. david gallow to you, when you talk about the search area for mh-370 if indeed this piece is confirmed to be from mh-370, what does this tell us about the search area? does it help? does it move the search area because as you see on your screen this piece, 2300 miles from the main search area. >> hi poppy. well it floated there almost assuredly it floated there from wherever the plane impacted the water. if it i

joining me now, david soucie and former faa safety inspector. you saw really fascinating how this process will go about. what is the first thing that you would be looking for? is the first thing you would be inspecting and thus what are you going to be listening for when they come out to announce findings? >> start before you go into the forensics. every part in the aircraft accident has a story to tell and you just have to listen to what it has to say to you and what this part is saying to me at first without being there. >> right. >> just from the photographs is that there was an abrupt tear because of the fact it's not disformed. it's not mangled. it's not something you'd see from an accident site. it's something that likely came off before the aircraft actually hit the water. if you look at it there and muscles give you clue. the aircraft is painted with an emron paint. it's slightly clean. that's zinc and sea life don't like zinc at all. this tells you where the cracks are because the muscles started to grow and will start to grow where met

earlier, my colleague, natalie allen, asked cnn safety analyst dav david soucie, if he thought the flaperonke a listen. >> from what i've heard, yes, it is. there is not a lot of questioning amongst the colleagues that i've been speaking with about it. however, we are looking at waiting for what they're going to do in europe to tell us whether it is or not. >> and what do you think's keeping them from saying that? >> well, there's two approaches to this, and as professional investigators, they're obligated to make sure that there's forensic evidence that it came from that specific aircraft. they can't use the rule of the fact that it's not anywhere else, so it must be here kind of thing, or they can't rule it out by saying that all the 777s are accounted for. what they're looking for is forensic evidence which gets to the science of what is the makeup of the paint that's on the aircraft, for example. does that match this particular flap? so, there's a lot more to it than just simply, yeah, i think that's the right part number. >> you know the families of those who have long been missing are

let's bring in david soucie, a cnn safety analyst and a former inspector for the faa. >> well, it's horribly difficult right now, wolf, because of the fact that they don't know if they are survivors there or not. there are no open areas at all, dense forest and jungle. so although they are only five or six miles away from where the aircraft is right now, they have to be equipped for everything from triage. >> there was a crash in december, killed 162 people in june a military plane went down. 135 people on board. indonesia is on the faa list of countries and they are banned from operating in the united states and that includes ukraine, zimbabwe, honduras, the philippines. what does it take to get a country on this do not fly list? >> well, it takes a couple of things, wolf. one is that there was surveillance in which they gave the country a very low rating. that doesn't mean they don't have good people trying to do good things here. it means that the air traffic has increased so substantially. their economy is changing and their middle class has become more aware of fl

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