about these narratives and the events at kent in the larger understanding of the '60s, historian david steigerwald has said that for those on the left, the '60s "was a moment of great change abruptly ended by war and right wing backlash. those on the right, conservatives, quote the beginning of a national crisis in authority and morality that legitimized anti-social behavior. clearly in the testimony you see both of these perspectives in a variety of ways. and carol mirman and others fall into these sort of larger areas. and clearly then the oral history testimonies certainly don't settle the questions that have arisen about the events of kent. and they certainly haven't settled what the meaning of the 1960s is, but they certainly have given us a lot of evidence to look at and to consider as we begin to contextualize these events at kent. and accept them in the context in the meaning of the long 1960s. so thank you. [ applause ] >> thank you, craig. our next speaker is rosalie uyola, who is a phd. student from rutgers university new park. she earned her master's in education from new jersey city u