i'm happy to work with david steinberg on hearing procedures . i have some familiarity with that. i think there are some principles that should apply and i yeah, i in any event, i'm happy to work with david steinberg on that. the next item i think the advanced calendar still needs some work in terms of format, and i didn't see the update on workforce development associated with the hr report, but i hope that that's coming at the next meeting on october 20th. in response to a request from the commission. i think commissioner turner and finally , as next year's calendar is being developed, understanding that room available city is limited, i would urge you to consider holding these meetings actually, earlier in the day in my experience, public works is kind of an early in the day department. and so i think starting meetings just after eight, as soon as you could get in the building and get in a room, either 815 or 830 might lend itself better to this particular department. so that's my those are my thoughts on item one. thanks for listening. thank you. caller and that concludes publ

in the way that the board has now and i still plan to follow up with certain commissioners and david steinberg on the sunshine ordinance and its impacts on the commission and this department. that's all i have on item three. thanks for listening. thank you. caller and that is our only caller for public comment. thank you. i would only note that the commission fully intends to keep remote comment intact unless and until we are subject to the same unreasonable vitriol that the board of supervisors has been subject to, if that should ever occur, we will revisit that issue. secretary fuller, please call the next item. item four is the consent calendar of routine matters includes the draft minutes from the october 6th, 2023, meeting of this commission . an eight contract awards one contract modification, one grant agreement modification, an all modifications and awards are eligible for the consent calendar in accordance with the contract delegation policy adopted by this commission. please note that corrections to the minutes have been made for clarity for items one, four, a, four, c and item seven