to talk about the situation in ukraine we are joined by kiev from our correspondent david stern. slightly different numbers coming out in terms of the death toll. it e certainly seems like this was a bloody episode in this crisis. >> reporter: yes, that's exactly right. a very bloody episode. it's not over yet. we have been getting various numbers as you say. we were confirmed or we had our confirmations from the pro-russian separatists at least or around 30 of their gunmen were killed yesterday. now we're hearing from the russian agency that the self-proclaimed prime minister is saying around 50. it's difficult to say. what we can say is this was one of the fierce is it battles if not the beefiercest battle so f. we saw fighter jets and helicopters used yesterday. of course, the government says they are in control of the airport. we haven't been able to confirm that. if they have managed to take it back, it is a victory which we have say there haven't been very many for them lately. this also marks perhaps an escalation or a stepping up on the part against the pro-russian separa

what david stern should have done. what do you think was the turn? public so fast and everyone saw it so quickly? usually things bubble for a while. there's a back and forth. this was a - >> no, it was in the middle of the playoffs. when the players stepped up, when lebron james and others stepped up it became very clear that something had to be done immediately otherwise i think the players had planned not to play, throughout the league. that would have cost the owners a huge amount of money. i mean like huge. >> we've seen this before. a lot of owners have very contentious relationships with the public. al davis, good example in the bay area. but sterling so crossed the line by insulting national heroes, magic johnson, it was just untenable. >> he's always been that way. fellow own you were knew he was that way. they don't invite him to their homes for anything. >> if he's always been that way and has these settlements he had to pay out or lawsuits for housing discrimination and such how does the naacp wind up giving him a -- an award? >> lifetime

>> that's a question for david stern.ling, there have been articles written about him, his racism, his mass sogny. and there are reports made about this. and the poorest residents of los angeles, the black guy, he's given this lead for so long. and this is a question that david stern should have to answer. adam silver who is replacing him is the one to shoulder this burden. >> there's a new report in "the new york times" that sterling actually went to v. stiviano several weeks ago and asked her to say that they adapted that tape. >> wow. >> dave, great to see you, congratulations on the book. "brazil's dance with the devil." it's a great read. thanks a lot. >>> up next, ron fornier asks in his latest piece, how dumb does obama think we are? ron's question we'll try to answer next in "the opinion pages." woman: everyone in the nicu -- all the nurses wanted to watch him when he was there 118 days. everything that you thought was important to you changes in light of having a child that needs you every moment. i wouldn't trad

the league, and that moment being that recording, was that it did come from within, that under david stern and commissioners that came before him, barriers were broken with this league, and i think they are -- for those who say it's a slippery slope and, my god, what happens to the next player or the next owner who does something wrong, i only say there's something particular about race issues when it comes to sports, and maybe the nba in particular. i mean, it's no secret, we have a league that majority of the players are african-american, the vast majority of the owners are not, but it's as a galtarian an institution as it is anywhere, at least that i know of, and i look at the track record in terms of hiring of coaches, general managers, front office personnel, even increasingly in the ownership ranks, i think it's -- you know, it's beyond anger. it's sort of what i said earlier, certain sadness, and you feel it. it's almost a malaise around the league. that's what i sense when i first met with the clippers. it was something deeper than anger. it was something -- again, it's that so man

let's speak to david stern in the ukrainian capital kiev. let's start with this military attack. y detail as to a, where he is now, and b, what intelligence activities were. >> no david not a whole lot of detail. we know he was the naval administer at the embassy. he was detained for what the foreign ministry has named activities not in accordance to his job at the embassy. i've spoken to the foreign ministry spoke person saying he has been detained. the attache has 24 hours to leave the country. 24 hours from yesterday. he will be leaving at some point today. we don't know his name or exactly what he was engaged in or how he was apprehended. >> the buildings taken by pro russian separatists all over eastern ukraine just grows. >> that's right. it's been growing on a daily basis. we are having large, many demonstrations across ukraine in honor of the may day holiday including in donetsk. as far as we can tell there haven't been attempts to take over buildings. authorities here are watching closely. they've warned of provocations or clashes. they're on high alert for anything that

. >> for the latest, let's go to david stern, our correspondent from kiev. operation has been going on some days. do we know what the precise balance of power is in sloviansk and other towns david? >> well, tim, no. it's difficult to say. apparently the insurgents of pro russian separatists are still in control of the city of sloviansk and other towns. of course the ukrainian government says it's been taking back territory making end roads. of course they said yesterday in mike's report they are saying that they killed 30 pro-russian activists. we cannot confirm this figure. we can say yes, this is now a major operation that's under going. sloviansk at the moment appears to be quiet. those are reports at moment. we've been told the airport in donetsk, the main city there in the donetsk region has been closed. at least to international flights. not clear what's happening with regional flights. as i'm in kiev now, the situation -- >> i was going to ask you, do we have idea about whether loyalties of these city, populations, lie? >> well they seem to be mixed.

david stern, bbc news, kiev. >> we speak to our correspondent along side donetsk international airport that, let's go to moscow and speak to bbc russian service. we have heard russia recognizes the mission. it recognizes the legitimacy of the election as well to establish inclusive dialogue with all citizens. is there wiggle room given the fact 5 million ukrainians couldn't vote? >> well this is very interesting and very special situation for russia. yes, indeed. the foreign minister mr. lavrov said he will respect3@

let's go to correspondents in moscow and david stern in kiev.t starting with you, did you get the impression there was a deeper, stronger, patriotic further they are year given what has happened in crimea? the last few months? >> well certainly you have this feeling. when you switch on the tv, go out in the street. you see people talking about exactly that. they consider this day as a day of celebration. the central moscow is locked out for the public transport in general. people are are walking about. there's been a marathon. there's been bicycle rides on the main streets. people are really celebrating. there's lots of patriotic flags. the russian flags, moscow flag and also crimean flag i've seen today. >> david, much more low key commemoration in kiev today. how will president putin's arrival in crimea be seen in kiev? >> well that's exactly what people are asking now tim. since he's just arrived we haven't had the official reaction from the ukrainian government. we anticipate one soon. it will be fairly negative although how negative remains

. >>> david stern is in kiev. daniel is in moscow.first of all, it's got provocation to cold war isn't it with this detaining of the attache. what's coming of that? >> there's not much information. there's been an arrest or detention. that has been confirmed in the conversation i had with the ukrainian foreign ministry spokesperson. the person has been asked to leave the country. this is supposed to happen within 24 hours since he was detained yesterday. we expect he'll leave some point today. we don't know anything about what exactly he's accused of or the circumstances of his detention. we do know he was a naval military attache. he has been accused of engaging in activities not in accordance with his job description. >> the acting president describing ukrainian forces as being helpless as to what's happening in the east of the country. there's been a military alert overnight in kiev. talk us through that. >> reporter: well, yes, we've had a number of things that happened yesterday. first of all, the acting president saying they wer

as you say -- >> david stern i'm so story. we're going to leave it there actually.line is obviously having problems. apologies for. that hope we got a gist of what he was saying about the ongoing tensions in that region. stay with us on bbc world news. there's more to come. taking old age for a test drive. we try on the suit hopefully to prepare younger people for challenges of life. (growls) (man) that's a good look for you. (woman) that was fun. (man) yeah. (man) let me help you out with the.. (woman)...oh no, i got it. (man) you sure? (woman) just pop the trunk. (man vo) i may not know where the road will lead, but... i'm sure my subaru will get me there. (announcer) love. it's what makes a subaru, a subaru. i dbefore i dosearch any projects on my home. i love my contractor, and i am so thankful to angie's list for bringing us together. find out why more than two million members count on angie's list. angie's list -- reviews you can trust. >>> this is bbc world news. i'm geeta guru-murthy with the top story this is hour. the internet giant google launched a servi

i do think that in these cases everybody says, well, david stern knew this guy was in his league andzy racist uncle donald has been around a long time. guess what, we as the media have to also be complicit in this as well. there was a public record ten years ago in which people talked about often that said essentially of the things he said about african-americans that rented from him and the fact that he didn't want him around. this was a guy practicing housing jim nation, which is the biggest modern form of segregation that everybody could practice and we didn't go after it until it affected the nba. the moment that everybody said imagine sdwr magic jo magic johnson, take her off the media, everybody went crazy. >>> coming up, new cnn polls show that voters are going to send a message to the president in november. is it an opposition or show of support? that's next coming up in our politics lead. ♪ [ girl ] my mom, she makes underwater fans that are powered by the moon. ♪ she can print amazing things, right from her computer. [ whirring ] [ train whistle blows ] she makes trains tha

>> david stern knew. >> also, i have to be honest with you. it happens ten years ago, 20 years ago. if you look at the top players in the nba of 2004, i don't know that kobe bryant comes out saying that i think this is a problem and no place for this guy in 2004. and your dan in 1994. i think the players involved -- >> what do you mean by that? >> i don't agree. >> there's a collective action here. i think lebron james and dwyane wade and -- a lot of players, they didn't have to become involved in this. they could have said that's a terrible situation. >> because it was recorded and everyone got to hear it. >> sure, sure. we also have social media which sort of makes the heightened -- everybody got involved. they had to tweet and social media. nobody walked out on a game or lost any money. nobody -- to say, like, i don't think the jordans or those 10 or 20 years ago -- they don't have the same tools to make the message loud. what did they really do? what did they really do? >> they could have said that's a problem with that particular franchis

times, the nba official david stern who later became the commissioner said the league would not pursue matter any further, even said the clippers were operated in a first class matter. >> i wonder if commissioner stern would come forward and tell us exactly why he gave them his blessings in 1993. >> a spokesperson said he was traveling and unavailable for comment. as for the remarks of paying her off, we couldn't get comment from v. stiviano, the woman accused of recording sterling's comments. but the spokesperson said she was not the girlfriend and didn't leak the matter on tmz. >>> quite a lot to talk about, we have legal analyst sunny hostin. and sterling says he plans to fight any forced sale of his team. this is the first quote from him that i have seen, reportedly speaking of v. stiviano. the magazine said he expressed remorse for the way the situation is unfurled. that is the magazine's allegations. >> it doesn't surprise me, he sues people for sport. he was a pretty good divorce lawyer. and the first rule of thumb is never admit anything. so the fact that he is not admitting an

decision by a commissioner who has only been on board for two months although been in the shadow of david sternle. the league is looking like a league of diversity not a league of racism. so i would say four months from now history is kind to this process. and as long as donald sterling keeps his lawyers to the transaction side of this business not the litigation side of this business. >> cedric, do you think the current nba players are wise to this point, the point you're making saying hey this guy needed to go. but be careful, this could come back to bite some of us in the fanny? >> absolutely, i think if you look at the players they have an understanding. but do they have an understanding at the end of the day everybody is on board for scrutiny. players, owners, everybody. so now you're looking at how are you going to judge all of this? if you're an official of a basketball game are we talking about language right now? you have enough right now judging the nba game. now you have officials looking at language which is said in football, basketball. so the slippery slope is there. how are you g

in february of 1983 it then commissioner david stern announced he thought the clippers were being operated in a first class fashion and the nba wouldn't pursue it anymore. so sterling's been faced with this before. he has stalled before. he's gotten away with it before. this could happen again. >> he's never faced, though, a national uproar, international uproar, as he's facing right now. >> that's right. >> he was much younger, 32 years ago, than he is right now. if these reports are true that he's got prostate cancer, you know, maybe at this stage in his life, he'll have a different attitude. >> he may very well do that. he's 80 years old. apparently his marriage to his wife is more than 50 years old. and so this is -- he may be looking for some angles and ways to divest himself of this trouble so maybe he'll go along with it. this history, as we're learning now, some of these cases, suggest he's not like that. so we'll see what happens. >> maybe he's changed. >> maybe. >> thanks very much. i know you'll have more later in "the situation room." >>> they volunteer to serve their country i

and the way david stern handled that was magnanimous. the way magic handled it. magic went on to fund hiv centers in which people from lower-income neighborhoods could afford drugs that he got when he first acquired the hiv virus. this is a person who led a broader commercial life, returned to many neighborhoods in this country where nobody's wanted to put their business. so for a guy who was seen in a deposition ten years ago, to say that he didn't want black people living in his buildings, to criticize magic and say he doesn't have enough -- it's unconscionable. >> stephanie, let me play the x exchange that donald sterling had on the whole issue of magic johnson and his efforts on behalf of minorities. >> he lulled me into waiting a week. you know what i mean, don't do anything, understand -- >> you're saying he told you not to say anything? >> yeah, don't do anything, i know the girl, don't do anything, i'll help you. i'm waiting and i'm waiting and i'm waiting. >> what you're saying is magic johnson called you up or you called him up? >> i don't know his phon

so the question is doctwhy was allowed to last as long as he was with david stern as commissioner andver was his right hand man. >> that's the point i was making earlier in a previous broadcast. because it wasn't until the sponsors started to unload on the nba. >> exactly. >> when it became a financial element involved here, gosh, everybody's attitude changed all of a sudden. goldie, sterling says his apologize came late because he was so distraught. do you accept that? >> i don't accept that. what i do accept is that donald sterling wants to hold on to this team so they can pass ownership down to his children and they can receive the tax credits that come that way. if this team is disposed of now and those children then inherit cash, then their capital gains taxes to pay and the inheritance will be less. but lets g's get this straight. donald sterling will no longer be an nba owner and as soon as his controlling interest ceases, his wife's ceases as well. so we're not going to hear very much from the sterlings after this is over and we'll see a new cast of owners come. we saw dick pa

while he was doing this, stern, david stern used to be involved in racial discrimination cases in newst question. exit question, quick answer. does this case show that if you're a racist, you will be ostracized in america, progress or not? >> yes. >> i think it is progress. we've all agreed -- >> everybody agrees. progress? >> huge progress. we are a good society. >> all right. have a great weekend. >>> coming up, brand-new developments. the impact that our special "hannity" investigation has had into these disturbing reports about how the va in phoenix has been betraying our veterans. we have updates, some that are pretty impressive. we'll tell you about it, coming up next. ♪ (woman) this place has got really good chocolate shakes. (growls) (man) that's a good look for you. (woman) that was fun. (man) yeah. (man) let me help you out with the.. (woman)...oh no, i got it. (man) you sure? (woman) just pop the trunk. (man vo) i may not know where the road will lead, but... i'm sure my subaru will get me there. (announcer) love. it's what makes a subaru, a subaru. >> test >> test >> test

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while he was doing this, stern, david stern used to be involved in racial discrimination cases in newast question. exit question, quick answer. does this case show that if you're a racist, you will be ostracized in america, progress or not? >> yes. >> i think it is progress. we've all agreed -- >> everybody agrees. progress? >> huge progress. we are a good society. >> all right. have a great weekend. >>> coming up, brand-new developments. the impact that our special "hannity" investigation has had into these disturbing reports about how the va in phoenix has been betraying our veterans. we have updates, some that are pretty impressive. we'll tell you about it, coming we'll tell you about it, coming up next. huh, 15 minutes could save you 15% or more on car insurance. everybody knows that. well, did you know that game show hosts should only host game shows? samantha, do you take kevin as your lawfully wedded husband... or would you rather have a new caaaaaar!!!! say hello to the season's hottest convertible... ohhh....and say goodbye to samantha. [ male announcer ] geico. 15 minutes co

have been -- that they should not have acted previously, but the way the bylaws are written and david stern is a lawyer, and -- everyone knows the legalalities involved. there wasn't a ton they could do to terminate his ownership. >> you have to remember, joy, a part of brand and a pr strategy strategically to hide behind the way you really feel is the donation that is he made to the naacp. he can always point to that as, see, i'm not a racist, which is why the fall-out that happened with that director being fired or stepping down, whatever happened with him moving away, shows an indication that there was a clear alignment to really mask who donald sterling really is by him showing support because you can always point to the donation of a community, the very community that you batter. >> well, he certainly has been unmasked now, and that has happened as a result of donald sterling. thank you so much, sean, and margaret. thank you to you both for being here. all right. we have some quick breaking news to pass along from chicago. the faa has shut all flights coming in and out of chicago's o'h

and nba official david stern who later became commissioner said that the league would not pursue the deal any further. >> i'm wondering, can commissioner stern come forward now and tell us exactly why he gave that organization his blessings back in 1983? >> a spokesman for former commissioner stern says he's traveling and unavailable for comment. as for donald sterling's comment about paying her off, we couldn't get a comment from the lawyer for v. stiviano but earlier the lawyer said that she was not sterling's girlfriend and did not publish the leaked recordings. >> and there is news about his health? >> he's battling cancer. a spokesman said he could not comment on that. >> they are saying that he has prostate cancer. >> that's right. >> we'll get to more information on that. brian, thanks very, very much. we'll talk all about this. cnn's rachel nichols is standing by and so is don lemon. i received more information about what don sterling is now saying. i spoke to jason bin about what sterling has in his mind, about his next steps. stand by. there's breaking news right after this

this is a huge departure from his predecessor, david stern never went into a vote before knowing aheaddecided he was going to publicly challenge the other owners of nba teams that even if they felt uncomfortable, they had to vote this guy out, public pressure, pressure from the players has made that a reality. >> don, it's an interesting point rachel makes. going back to that initial adam silver news conference when he banned donald sterling for life from the nba, but he made it clear at that point he wasn't banning mrs. sterling from the nba. she did show up at several clippers games after her husband was banned from showing up at any games. in this new document we have now obtained, adam silver, lawyers for the nba, are making it clear she's got to go, as well. not necessarily banned from attending the game, but she's going to lose ownership of the team just as he will. >> yeah, it's called doing the right thing. that's what he said from the beginning, i'm doing the right thing. he wanted to make sure he did the right thing. as everyone has been saying here, perhaps donald sterling a

times, david stern, who later became commissioner said the league wouldn't pursue it any further even clipper were in a first class commission. >> can commissioner stern come forward and say why he gave their blessings then. >> reporter: he was traveling and unavailable for comment. as for donald sterling's remarks about paying her off, we couldn't get information on that. earlier, that lawyer said stiviano was not his girlfriend and did not release the tapes. >> let's talk more about the bomb. she said she's his best friend and he is not a racist. here is the interview with barbara walters. >> is donald sterling a racist? >> no. i don't believe it in my heart. >> have you heard him say derogatory things about minorities in general and blacks in particular? >> absolutely. >> you have heard him say derogatory things? >> yes. >> don't they sound racist to you? >> i think the things he says are not what he feels. >> i don't get it. i don't get it. >> i don't, either. >> let's bring in jason johnson. she says, on the recording -- >> we don't know where to start. >> i had to pause. she say

adam silver is a trained lawyer at david stern who was an amazing lawyer, as well. and, clearly, the issue is donald sterling can litigate until the day he dies. but the question is, is there injunkative relief and can they shut the process down? published reports that shelly sterling would indemnify the nba against a lawsuit if she sells to steve ballmer and escrow efunds available. now come out of the sterling family trust if donald sues shelly. the nba may have boxed donald sterling to a precarious box into the benefit of the nba and basically all sports down the road. >> donald and shelly's relationship under a lot of scrutiny and some people, brian, who think i wonder if these two are working in cucahoots to make this happen. what is your take? >> hard to tell with the sterling family. certainly been a true soap opera playing out in front of us. only a month ago a man would run and nobody would question his competence and then certainly a month later he is declared incompetent. i think it's a little bit problematic in the fact that he hasn't had his sort of day

he'll end the show and take over the late show when david letterman retires this year. the actor told howard stern he had a sit down with cbs executives, but decided he wasn't the right guy for the job. however, harris did say he would enjoy doing a weekly variety type program, maybe it would be legend, wait for it derry. >> he found some people behaving badly. >> when you think of national parks, trash isn't the first thing that comes to mind, however on certain days, that's exactly what he finds if you visit ocean beach. i once spoke to a beach goer and told him about finding broken glass on the beach. he said he's never had that experience. here i am again standing next to broken glass where walking barefoot is the norm. it shouldn't be part of the occasion. . this is the instructions on how to did to the plastic jews bottles, it's to. every time they experience warm weather, they flock to the beach and they bring food, drinks, and all in an attempt to beat the heat, when they leave it's someone else's job to clean up the trash. the sad part some of the trash makes it to the ocean and sea life

david sent this report. >> reporter: after a day of bloodshed, a day of defiance in donetsk as several hundred minors rallied in support of the pro-russian fighters as their help declared people's republic under the stern of linen speaker after speaker was applauded. >> translator: i'm a minor. every time i go to the mine, i risk my life. i'm not afraid. >> translator: they call us separatists, they call us terrorists, i'm just here to support the referendum, because i don't like what is happening in the country. >> reporter: the minors showed nothing buddies contain for the country's new president elect and his latest message. we are in a state of war in the east. the anti-terror operation has begun in earnest. he told a german newspaper. you could say normality is returning to the streets of donetsk. but that depends on your sense of normality. jet fighters have been flying across the skies of the city. a form of psychological war fair. on the main road to the airport, the pro-russian fighters were strengthening their barricades, despite just losing the [ lost audio ] they still believe they can keep the government troops at bay. the red cross has put out a plea for medicine and bandages. >>> four mi

david wain, veronica wise. >> we ask why. why have such a beautiful place and such beautiful people been hurt in this way. why here, and why now? >> reporter: somber moments of reflection were punctuated by stern calls of change. >> we all know what's happening here and it's unbelievable that we're at this point. too many people have died and it should be not one more. >> not one more. not one more. >> reporter: the thousands of people in these stands wore these black ribbons an effort organized by a buddhist group who came here to support the victims from the bay area. >> so where he volunteered to purchase the ribbons. we have a chance to hug them, cry with them. >> reporter: and say one final goodbye with them. >> we will get through this together. >> reporter: in isle of vista, noelle walker, ktvu news. >>> the three victims from the bay area are being remembered with fondness and sadness at the high schools they attended here. george chen and james huong were both from san jose and roommates with the killer. huong was visiting them. the school he attended will name a basketball court after him. and chen's drama teacher said he made sets and eventually performed. >> those are students that

david wain, veronica wise. >> we ask why. why have such a beautiful place and such beautiful people been hurt in this way. why here, and why now? >> reporter: somber moments of reflection were punctuated by stern calls of change. >> we all know what's happening here and it's unbelievable that we're at this point. too many people have died and it should be not one more. >> not one more. not one more. >> reporter: the thousands of people in these stands wore these black ribbons an effort organized by a buddhist group who came here to support the victims from the bay area. >> so where he volunteered to purchase the ribbons. we have a chance to hug them, cry with them. >> reporter: and say one final goodbye with them. >> we will get through this together. >> reporter: in isle of vista, noelle walker, ktvu news. >>> the three victims from the bay area are being remembered with fondness and sadness at the high schools they attended here. george chen and james huong were both from san jose and roommates with the killer. huong was visiting them. the school he attended will name a basketball court after him. and chen's drama teacher said he made sets and eventually performed. >> those are students that

david letterman as the host of late show next year. another star said he was approached about the job, kneel patrick harris, telling howard stern why herom cbs. >> i think i would get bored of the repetition fast, and that the structure of it is so set that i just don't have any interest in doing monologue, commercial, sketch, guest, guest, musical act, good night. >> just to clarify, howard asked neil if he was in talks with cbs before colbert took the job, declining to answer saying he didn't want to be disrespectful to anyone. he said he is toying with the idea of doing a weekly prime time variety show. please, do it, neil. we would love that. >> pretty cool. >>> how many people tried to talk or flirt their way out of speeding tickets? usually doesn't work. some of the social news websites said more than a dozen police officers shared ways to avoid getting out of the ticket. some advice, keep your hands on the wheel, shows care and respect and concern for the officer's safety. >> next, never admit you were speeding. if you do, the officer has to give you the ticket. and finally, if you're speeding, and see a cop, wave. why you ask?