associates go out and talk to the people and he wants to know what's on their minds. >> i mean, david stewart didn't just write to him by happenstance and say, oh, how do you feel about the title controversy? washington had told stewart, you need to write me and tell me what's going on in virginia. i want to know what's going on in virginia. you're going to be my ears on the ground. and he's writing back to stewart, and part of the reason -- i mean, he's writing back because he wants stewart to spread the word of what he's saying, but he wants to hear. he tells stewart in another letter, he tells him, you know, i want to hear what the people are thinking, what the people of virginia are thinking, because if i've made a decision that they don't agree with, he actually says i will reconsider. i will reconsider what i've done and effect a solution if i need to. >> that's great. that's great. well, the last present day thing i've been thinking about, and i want to hear your opinion about this, is political parties. >> oh. >> they're so important today to our system of government, to our politics.

also in that letter to david stewart, he expresses specifically his irritation with john adams for pressing for a high title. the other main piece of evidence that i bring to the argument that he was not in favor of a high title is by looking at james madison during this period. i think it's very important for all of us to look at james madison and to listen to what he's saying to read what he's writing during that first year of washington's administration. during that first year, washington and madison who was a representative from the state of virginia and in the house. the madison and washington were very close and they were the two of the founders that were at the constitutional convention every day in philadelphia. washington and madison, adams was in britain, jefferson was in france. hamilton was there for awhile and he left and went back to new york to run his legal practice. so really it was madison and washington there every day, bonding over these arguments for the constitution and very committed to the constitution's success at the beginning of washington's administration. if you

and he writes to washington's stepfather david stewart and says martha would submit to this. this is 18th century virginia, remember. wives do submit. but he then says, it would be a heart-rending stroke on her to have him go away. so washington says, let him stay in the area, go to st. john's college in annapolis instead. that did not work out well either. you read washington's letters. he's basic. will you hit the books, for god's sakes. this is your chance to develop. that's not an exact quote, by the way. since we're on -- since we're on c-span, i'd better -- where did he say that. there are so many false quotes about washington, i do not want to add to those that are out there. he's unfortunately just not motivated. he's uninterested, and he doesn't remember the things he learned for any length of time at all. he really goes through a time of depression. at one point washington writes to stewart, he appears to me to be moped and stupid, says nothing, is always in some hole or corner excluded from company, playing on his i -- no, that's not right. anyway, by the way, just

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