. >> one of our presenters at the conference yesterday, david sutherland, who is working in the philippines challenged the conference with the notion of how do you measure hope and dignity. i think that our challenge -- our real opportunity now is to build on the growing interest by virtue of the scale of the ambition of the goals, the develop goals the growing interest on the part of policymakers for engaging all hands in the development tact and therefore also being very open to engage in faith-based assets. our opportunity now is to pull together the evidence frame that shows to them that our work and our contribution will help achieve and heff drive -- help drive development out comes and i think we need to do that in creative ways. a lot of evidence already exists and i think that we need to underscore and get much more creative at communication. and in the end of the day, i think that a lot of our work going forward is about building friendship and trust that will allow us to cross the cultural divides that we addressed earlier in the remarks in the paper. >> thank you. >> thank you,