outrage that was expressed byy republicans and democrats,ed not just elizabeth warren, but also david vitter. outrage is easy.as what's the fix they're asking for? >> well, i think they want more accountability. i mean, this fraud was extraordinary for how widespread it was. i mean, it affected thousands of customers, we're talking upward of two million potentially fake created accounts by wells fargo employees, 5,300 bank workers, mostly low-level, low-paid bank workers have been fired, but i think what the committee was focused on and what elizabeth warren in particular was takingt up the charge for was that none of the senior executives seem to have been affected, either losing their jobs or taking back some of their compensation. >> ifill: how long have senior executives known about thiss problem? >> well, john stumpf said he first knew about it in 2013, though the problems may have gone back to 2011. but even 2013, this problem has been going on for three years in some form or another. those employees who have beenee fired have been fired over a period of five years, and, you know, even