we will continue the fascinating conversation with gina holly and david wang, who are participants inhe 2013 taiwan tech trek program, organized by the ocac. both of you have multicultural backgrounds, in your growing up and maturation process. david, you were born in canada but you have been traveling to taiwan twice now. and also to japan and china. gina, you are born to an american father and taiwanese mother. you have been back to taiwan many times. you have been going to the china for the second time. how does your multicultural background help you? or is it becoming an issue, a concern for you in terms of you identifying where you belong and who you are? has that been an issue in the lives of the two of you? going to start with gina. >> yes. i grew up in california. all my friends were like, we're american and we have all this freedom. at home, my mom was so strict. i had to go to chinese school every saturday. i felt like, why do i have to learn chinese? i felt embarrassed about it sometimes when i was younger. after coming to taiwan and seeing how great it is here, it made me