here to talk about it, david webb, co-founder of teaparty365 in new york city. also co-founder of the black republican forum. he's a talk radio host on sirius xm. and benjamin todd from kansas city, jealous of the ceo of naacp. all right, ben. it was obviously a ridiculous ad. but it's one person in one party in one section of the country. why raise a whole racist thing against the whole movement, ben? >> well, you know, the billboard actually wasn't what prompted this. what prompted this were folks here in the "show me" state who, you know, had -- knew that the council of concerned -- sorry, the council of conservative citizens, the direct decendent of white citizens council, a group that says black people are not prepared -- not genetically equipped to participate in democracy. has been promoting tea party membership. and bragging about their influence and activity in the tea party. that in the midst of all these horrible signs we've seen. congressman being spit on. civil rights icons like john lewis being called the "n" word. barney frank being called the "f"

in new york is david webb, who is the national tea party federation... with that group. he's also the co-founder of tea party 365. mr. jealous, you raised a lot of eyebrows when your organization passed a resolution condemning, and you were careful to say not the tea party itself, but elements of the tea party for racism. why did you find that necessary? and what actually were you trying to do? >> well, we started out, we were at our big gathering in the show-me state. each year... we gather once a year. we were debating 75 issues. one issue, this issue, had come up from our folks there. the council of conservative citizens, a group that says that black people are not equipped to participate in democracy, was there in the state saying, "join the tea party. we're active in it. we have great influence." that raised eyebrows. folks looked around the country and saw a person running down south, running as a write-in candidate for governor, stating that they didn't want people of color in this country, period. claiming broad tea party support. we had somebody running out in t

. >> larry: let me take a break and ask david webb if he'll call dick armey and see if dick will speak out. waking up with morning pain can drain the energy right out of you. fight it with new... it combines extra strength bayer aspirin to treat pain plus an alertness aid to help you get off to a running start. try bayer am the morning pain reliever. >> larry: all right, david webb, have you called on dick armey to make a public stand against racist statements made inside the movement? >> i have not personally spoken with dick armey on this issue, larry. however, i would like to go to two things that have been said in the past segment. mr. jealous talks of who they're calling out in the tea parties. in his own release today, he speaks to racist tea party leaders and bigoted elements. he's included leadership and elements, which is another thing that is clearly not all there. these are your words, mr. jealous. >> -- i'm talking about dale robertson. sends out the racist e-mails -- >> larry: one at a time, hold it. >> if i may finish my point. dale robertson has been denounced by many me

>> i've gone to four tea party events and i've worked with david webb who is a black member of the teatea party represent your philosophy? >> there are many members of the tea party that do. >> larry: the party itself. >> i was at the original one in sacramento a couple of years ago covered by the media. i spoke there. i just spoke in ohio at a tea party. i'm speaking again shortly at a tea party. i talk about my values, what i believe in, what ronald reagan believed in and where we should go. these are democrats, republicans, independences, and they have one thing in common. they're really upset with the way washington is going. more and more government control over every aspect of their lives and they're mad and they are angry. you go back to thomas jefferson who said to his friend in new york, a judge. there needs to be rebellion on occasions. about every 20 years. we had one in 1980 and another rebellion today because of washington, d.c. that's what it's all about. >> larry: you think your father would be a tea partier? >> he would be supportive of the tea party because he was sich