perry, mark moreale and david webb. talking about the policy issues, foreign policy around afghanistan, around osama bin laden in particular. i want to shift gears a little bit. david you had a comment you ke. >> yeah i want to add to something mark said. i understand and there are the political credits due to the president. after all the decision is his, but this has been an ongoing professional process, and whether it was jimmy carter, bill clinton, reagan, bush or whatever, all presidents have to deal with the process that happens to take an action. it's not just he gets the credit or the blame for the success or the failure, but we shouldn't ignore the fact that there are professionals that have spent almost a decade tracking osama bin laden. >> i think one of the challenges people accused obama of not having been aggressive enough on terror, he wasn't following the bush plan. >> most of his policies have followed exactly what came out of the bush administration with the war on terror. he's followed the war time poli

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doug schoen, david webb, always good to see you. >> always good to see you.t means we're tracking some major developments in the 2012 race for the white house. here inside america's election headquarters this is what we have for you today. president obama launching a new effort to court the hispanic vote addressing the nation's largest latina civil rights group today as republicans and democrats wage an all-out spanish language ad war in key western battleground states. alicia acuna joins us leave from denver with that story. >> hi, martha. specifically, we're talking about colorado, new mexico and nevada, three states president obama won in 2008, and his democratic strategists are saying he must hold on to them in his re-election bid. but the gop is now saying it's going after those latino votes saying they believe it could be in play. now, in mid july the republican national committee released spanish language ads targeting groups in the three western states i just mentioned. the rnc says it's highlighting the president's record on the economy and, more imp

joining us from new york is cathy contributing editor to the "the washington post" magazine and david webbea party activist. so, i'm trying to keep this straight. domestic terrorists and tom freidman of the "new york times" writes if the g.o.p. did not stand up to this hezbollah faction in their midst it would basically be a suicide mission and nic kristof called them domestic terrorists. i thought after gab guy gabby give. the president called for it and he admonished people. i thought we were down this new path of getting along. i want to start with you before we get to the tea party perspective. are we going a little overboard here in the country is still standing the last time i checked. >> yeah, a little overboard. but, i mean, this is an emotional time and some of the people in the republican party are acting like children and it sounds like. >> laura: the democrats never do that but go ahead. >> i'm thinking that the parents are saying you are acting like children, it's time to calm down and stop saying no, no, no, no. you have to work and learn to be civilized adult and that's the

let's bring in david webb. welcome to both of you. so sally, let me start with you. think a balanced budget amendment is a bad idea. why? >> an utterly bad idea. instead of sciewght scalpel to surgically execute some cuts and revenue increases, it's like taking a bomb to our economic future and the intent our founders who created the possibility of government being a spender of last resort for a strategic reason. martha: do you think it founders ever imagined we would be $14.2 trillion dollars in debt? >> no, they didn't. on top of that what they did, article one section 8 says they can borrow on the credit of the united states. it doesn't say they can borrow irresponsiblably. and if we don't have some austerity approaches. if we don't get a balanced budget amendment, we end up the big bomb is the explosion in our debt. 1997, one vote short of getting a balanced budget amendment. 14.6 and growing right now. we are near 100% of gdp with slow growth in the first quarter. and projected slow growth. it simply cannot happen. this is not politics. this is numbers. we need