. >> with me now, republican strategist and fox news contributor david webb and democratic strategist chris cofinas. all right, gentlemen, your take on rand paul winning this evening. i'll start with you, david. >> i tell you, there's not really much of a surprise there, judge, after all, rand paul has gotten that, you know, strong libertarian grasp through cpac base. the surprise story tonight, though, governor scott walker who didn't put much into it and still comes in second and i would say that a third part of this would be jeb bush who came there, got a lot of boos in the beginning, but turned the audience around as he got a little deeper into issues including immigration and started getting applause. so rand paul not a surprise win, but i think the surprise there is that governor walker did well and jeb bush coming in at number five but still turning the crowd around. >> let me ask you a question. you said something interesting that scott walker didn't put much into it. what did you mean by that? >> well, he didn't have this notably large group coming in and saying, okay, we're