we turn once again to david wessel, director of the hutchi center on fiscal and monetary policy at the brookings institution. so, david, welcome back to the "newshour". tell us what the overall projections are right now about what happens to the economy overall, if we don't see a sort of relief package in the foreseeable future. >> well, the economy was fueled by the care cares act which pasn march. the third quarter will show a big increase in growth. but without stimulus, that's going to level off and we'll level off with far fewer people working than were working before the pandemic. a couple of my colleagues at brookings estimate that with a $2 trillion package is roughly where mnuchin and pelosi are talking, we could get back on the pre-pandemic growth path by the end of 2021 or early 2022. but without any more fiscal stimulus, they estimate that it could be several years, perhaps a decade, before we return to the pre-pandemic growth path. so this is really a moment where it really matters. >> woodruff: help us understand, david, what sectors of the economy -- we heard some of thi