david wethe how much debt --erik: how much debt with a like you to have? look at our enterprise sheet. you know what i am after -- a feel for what you think is the appropriate amount of debt relative to the size of your enterprise. sally: we would look at the industry average and look at that same amount of debt on the balance sheet. erik: what else might you do with the debt -- there has been talk of returning capital to shareholders. sally: that would be the next thing after the ability to grow return capital to shareholders through a share repurchase or through a dividend. erik: and what are you inclined to do? sally: we are talking to the board right now and i am sure in the next six to nine months we will have some sort of announcement talking about what we will do with the cash that we do generate. erik: explain to me some of the calculus that goes on in the boardroom and in your own head. what is the value of a dividend versus a share repurchase? sally: well, as we are talking with shareholders, the majority right now would prefer a share repurchase