. >> so david winslowork, ofow, o, he's not here. the best way i can describe that idea and he's not here to speak for himself. but it's just design ideas. he's an architect and we're just throwing things around and, of course, myself and the property owners were not going to -- we were listening, but we are not going to make a decision right then and there. and i'm sure you can imagine what a shed roof would look like on this property if we went ahead and just put a shed on to it and it just wouldn't match the architecture and the goal of any project is to make it look like it was there from the very beginning. and so i just want to kind of put our two cents in our point of view and perspective of what happened in that hearing, from the meeting with the appellant, the property owners and myself. and i'm going to go ahead and please pass it on to the homeowners. >> i don't want to lower myself to the level of insulting neighbors and i will not do that. i just want to say that we do live there. we do like to expand that bathroom and i