. >> also joining us in the questioning, nole of the los angeles times and david with mclatchy newspaper. he is their national reporter. >> mr. armstrong, if i'm sitting in wherever, charlotte, north carolina, sacramento, et cetera, and i'm being told that your model is the one that congress may adopt, what does that mean in english? what does that mean to me, the consumer who is so baffled by all this health care news? >> i can describe how it works. basic like cooperative, it's not for profit. our board of trustees is elected by the patients themselves from among the patients. we contract with or we employee an integrated medical group which is really a critical part of what you would experience anywhere if you saw a cooperative like group health because it's a way in which we have a real impact and our view is that ultimately that's the way you change health care. and then finally you would experience an organization that brings together through its business model the financing, the up-front insurance functions, full, along with this integrated care delivery system or group practice.