wolf, for his return home. >> jim, stand by for a moment. i want to dig deeper with body language expert chris ullrich here in the situation and "the washington post" editor, davidnatius, author of "the director," a novel, spy thriller and former u.s. navy s.e.a.l., brandon webb, joining us from new york. chris, let's talk about the video. you've had a chance to study it. it's a long video, 16, 17 minutes. the smile what do you make of that? he does seem as we're showing viewers right now to get a little smile going there. >> yeah, oftentimes, wolf, sometimes it's not what it seems. we see the smile with him, we laugh for three reasons, we laugh because we're happy, in a duping delight mode, we're evil and trying to get over on somebody and we're anxious. we see a nervous laugh, almost relieving stress. he's surrounded by taliban gunships overhim, there's a lot of stress around him. we also see it in his blink rate. >> david, you've written a lot of books on this stuff. the interaction he seems to have with his taliban captors, what do you make of that? >> well, the thing we're most curious about whether he in some sense felt part of his captives' -- captors' wo