david, jim, back to you. >> rick, thank you. >>> it is the end of an era for alibaba. jack ma retiring as executive chairman daniel zangceed him. ma has grown alibaba into a $460 billion online retail juggernaut, china's richest man with a net worth of almost $40 billion, according to forbes kyle bass tweeting a moment ago, like clock work, ma forcibly removed and will likely be jailed or disappeared within the next year, this is how xi and wang treat any chinese that become too powerful. >> that doesn't sound completely accurate to me jack has been taking a lesser and lesser role with the company. he is a spiritual leader without a doubt and has been daniel zhang the ceo, stepping up and i don't necessarily think he's going anywhere. >> i remember he told me his hero was forest gump. >> he told us that here. i have not seen him in some time >> i was hoping he would say mao or -- >> it is an intricate dance you do with the communist party and the government mr. ma has done it exceedingly well >> mao did not -- mao was a redistributionist. maybe kyle bass is looking at xi as mao. >> and jo tsai is very involved. >> did