davis. i focus on trade issues, so this is actually bringing that back to that discussion. for mr. baker, i want to make sure i understood your comment, which is that you suggested that if we were to call out the europeans and come over to trade negotiations, somehow that would be -- when they invoke privacy and we realize it's actually for their own economic interests, that somehow advances the debate. i'm not quite sure how it does. the europeans will come back and say, okay, it's for my economic self-interest, so what. for me, it seems like 256-bit encryption, and you know, end end use encryption and more transparency goes a lot further in making inroads with american companies in europe than calling out the europeans for being economically self-interested. >> you know, here's my concern. they are seeking to influence u.s. policy by threatening u.s. companies with a loss of a safe harbor. the legal basis for that is nonexistent. the whole theory of the safe harbor was, you can sign up by contract to treat your european customers as though they were governed by european law, even thoug