history of around the davis bessie nuclear power station in just outside of toledo where operators and the u.s. nuclear regulatory commission allowed leaks from inside the reactor vessel of boric acid a cool it's the moderating coolant to eat through six and three quarter inches of carbon steel in through the vessel head and they had three sixteenth's of an inch between nuclear catastrophe. and you know basically an accident that would have been much much worse then the three mile island accident and that was in two thousand and two but the n.r.c. had pictures of roiling rust lava like formations coming off of the reactor in april of two thousand when they let the plant go back on him for two more years i was including michigan we almost lost detroit there was a book by that title absolutely detroit nearly went critical and nobody covered it it was like it was invisible until the book came out and then it and it was a news story for a couple of weeks. does the fact that these cooling pumps are still not online two days after we've been told that the electricity is attached we have just

is there anything from your prior experience here at nrc either 9/11 or davis bessie or the 2003 blackout that you think would be in your initial thoughts on how we communicate so that people in the american public understand what the results are of these near term and longer-term efforts? >> well, again, this is just my view, my public -- my assessment. i think that especially in the long term review that we do we need to build in a meaningful engagement with all the stakeholders. they have an enormous capability to understand the most technical issues. sometimes we think that capability doesn't exist, but it's, in fact, not true. and we get, have had enormously valuable input from a wide range of stakeholders. this is a little bit off of event response, but when we established the reactor oversight program, we did it 10 or 12 years ago, we used just that kind of approach. we brought in all kinds of different stakeholders from are all different perspectives, and it was a very impressive end result that had everyone's buy-in. people who came from pro-nuclear, anti-nuclear, and they all ag