davison then moves out of— us. he was good as gold. davison then moves out of the _ us.old. davison| then moves out of the park onto a main road. he makes his way towards a shopping area. gun in hand. looking from the traffic point of view, that's why we went there and he wasn't to deal with any potential gunmen that we would do with casualties if he came across them, but to go into the area to see if you can locate the subject or subjects because of that point, we didn't know how many gunmen there were. 3 didn't know how many gunmen there were. 5! didn't know how many gunmen there were. ,, ., ., were. s i went there in a herd of the radio. _ were. s i went there in a herd of the radio, and _ were. s i went there in a herd of the radio, and open _ were. s i went there in a herd of the radio, and open speech. - were. s i went there in a herd of. the radio, and open speech. saying that the person _ the radio, and open speech. saying that the person had _ the radio, and open speech. saying that the person had a _ the radio, and open speech. saying that the person had a gun.

davison�*s actions left a community in shock and pain. weapon. they now want to see more changes in gun licensing to help stop further deaths. jenny kumah, bbc news. scotland�*s finance secretary kate forbes has become the third person to confirm they�*re entering the race to succeed nicola sturgeon as scotland�*s first minister and leader of the snp. kate forbes is cutting short her maternity leave to vie with scottish health secretary humza yousaf and former minster ash regan. our scotland editor james cook reports. only five weeks to go, guys. only five weeks to go, which means just next month humza yousaf could become the youngest ever first minister of scotland, as well as the first ethnic minority politician and the first muslim to hold the post. he says he has the skills and experience to run the country and build support for independence. if you get independence as the settled will of the scottish people, then it becomes a political reality, inevitability in fact. what we�*ve alos got to do is discuss the process now. the first mi

davison�*s actions left a community in shock and pain.licensing to help stop further deaths. jenny kumah, bbc news. nhs strikes will intensify next month afterjunior doctors in england voted overwhelmingly to take action over pay. the health secretary, steve barclay, says the decision is deeply disappointing. our health editor hugh pym joins me now. so this is next month on top of nurses, ambulance workers, is going to have a huge impact. shill nurses, ambulance workers, is going to have a huge impact.— to have a huge impact. all of that added u- to have a huge impact. all of that added up does — to have a huge impact. all of that added up does look _ to have a huge impact. all of that added up does look that - to have a huge impact. all of that added up does look that way. - to have a huge impact. all of that i added up does look that way. junior doctors is a term which covers quite a range of different skills from the newly qualified doctor right up to ten years later, someone who was about to become a consultant. they are saying that n

the actions of davison left a community — straightaway.es finally have some answers about why he legally owned a weapon and they now want to see more changes in gun licensing to help stop further deaths. we are expecting to hear from jenny kumar in a short while. this is the scene outside exeter racecourse where the inquest has been heard and we expect there to be a press conference there very soon. we will take you there when it starts. now it's time for a look at the weather with helen. good afternoon. mild start to the working week but with a lot of cloud around. this is a weak weather front. it is giving some appreciable rain over the hills of scotland just nudging a little bit further north. there's drizzle in coastal and hilly areas further west. but where we see some sunshine, 15 or 16 is well above where it should be at this time of year. but it's windy and it remains windy in the north, only slowly easing down the northern ireland in particular. rain pushes its way northwards on that weather front to overnight. so again, with all

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the jury heard how davison finished the course , but davison finished the course, but no one checked the inquest at exeter racecourse continues . jeff moody racecourse continues. jeff moody . gb news and stay with us on gb news next hour will be assessing whether zelenskyy will get his jets . if the uk has the right jets. if the uk has the right kit for him. and of course the very latest on the earthquake and the relief efforts as the death toll now reaches 18,000. more than that moment . death toll now reaches 18,000. more than that moment. but more than that in a moment. but first, let's get an update on the for you. hello again , aidan the for you. hello again, aidan mcgivern the met mcgivern here from the met office many us office blue skies for many us this afternoon having clear the earlier cloud and drizzle the south. but in the far north here we've got strong winds and some heavy showers . those houses in heavy showers. those houses in the north scotland through the rest of the day. the next weather front is approaching. that's actually going to bring milder, albeit cloudier

five people died , a child in a shooting rampage by 22 year old jake davison. today, the inquest jury said victims were unlawfully . said victims were unlawfully. the inquest heard how davison legally held a shotgun and certificate and had obsession with firearms at the same time. a lawyer for the victim's says there has been a catalyst trophic failure. devon and cornwall police will bring you more that in our next hour of news . also in the headlines , news. also in the headlines, doctors in england have voted to strike for 72 hours. next month over pay the medical association's announcement as more than 11,000 health care workers from the gmb and unite unions in england and wales are striking today in their continuing dispute over pay and staffing . the workers striking staffing. the workers striking ambulance workers paramedic and call handlers and gmb says . it's call handlers and gmb says. it's over a month since the government engage meaningful dialogue . president biden dialogue. president biden promised more than $500 million worth of aid to ukraine tod

heavily expensive for davison , heavily expensive for davison, and so he completed just one.y heard how davison finished the course , but no one finished the course, but no one checks how it performed or how it answered questions . the it answered questions. the inquest at exeter racecourse continues. jeff moody . gb news continues. jeff moody. gb news the turkish president erdogan admits there are problems with his government's response. time to the earthquake that struck southern turkey and syria on monday. more than 12,000 people have been killed in both countries so far, but anger has grown from those left homeless amid the slow arrival of rescue teams. but the president, who faces an election in may, says operations are working normally and says no one will be left without a home. well, right hand basin is a journalist and joins us this morning from istanbul. very good morning to right. i think it was always going to be inevitable, wasn't it, after the immediate shock and horror that this would turn to anger and a small admission of failure from president erdogan when yo

today, the inquest jury davison. today, the inquest jury said the victims were unlawfully killed . the inquest heard how killed. the inquest heard how davison legally held a shotgun certificate and had an obsession with firearms . but a lawyer for with firearms. but a lawyer for four of the victims family says there's been catastrophic failures . a devon and cornwall failures. a devon and cornwall police . the system has police. the system has hopelessly failed us in particular. the devon and cornwall police force has failed us.the cornwall police force has failed us. the evidence we have heard dunng us. the evidence we have heard during this inquest over the past five weeks is a consistent story of individual failures , story of individual failures, breathtaking incompetence and systemic failings within every level of the firearms licencing unit of the devon and cornwall police now and is away from home. president biden today promised more than $500 million worth of aid to ukraine after making a surprise trip to its caphal making a surprise trip to its capital. it comes just days

today, the inquest jury davison. the inquest jury said the victims had been unlawfully killed. the inquest heard how davison legally held a shotgun certificate and had an obsession with firearms. a lawyer for four of the victims families says there's been a catastrophic failure . devon and catastrophic failure. devon and cornwall police, the system has hopelessly failed us. in particular, the devon and cornwall police force has failed us.the cornwall police force has failed us. the evidence we have heard dunng us. the evidence we have heard during this inquest over the past five weeks is a consistent story of individ failures. breathtaking incompetence and systemic failings within every level of the firearms licencing unit of the travelling cornwall police . well, in these away from police. well, in these away from home, president biden has promised more than $500 million worth of aid to ukraine. after making a surprise trip to its capital today , that comes just capital today, that comes just days before the first a

jake davison. the inquest heard how the 22 year old legally held a shotgun and was obsessed with firearms. a lawyer for the victim's family says there's been a catastrophic failure. devon and cornwall police . the devon and cornwall police. the system has hopelessly us in the devon and cornwall police has failed us. the evidence we have heard this inquest over the past five weeks is , a consistent five weeks is, a consistent story of individ failures, breathtaking incompetence and, systemic failings within , every systemic failings within, every level of the firearms licencing unit of the devon cornwall police to turkey now where a new 6.3 magnitude earthquake has reported near its border with syria. the country's government said three people are dead and more than 200 people have been injured. it's all in an area still cleaning from one of the worst natural disasters in turkey's history. with more 47,000 people killed, just two weeks ago . president biden today weeks ago. president biden today pro

jake davison.he inquest heard how the 22 year old legally held a shotgun and was obsessed with firearms. a lawyer for the victim's family says there's been a catastrophic failure. devon and cornwall police . the devon and cornwall police. the system has hopelessly us in the devon and cornwall police has failed us. the evidence we have heard this inquest over the past five weeks is , a consistent five weeks is, a consistent story of individ failures, breathtaking incompetence and, systemic failings within , every systemic failings within, every level of the firearms licencing unit of the devon cornwall police to turkey now where a new 6.3 magnitude earthquake has reported near its border with syria. the country's government said three people are dead and more than 200 people have been injured. it's all in an area still cleaning from one of the worst natural disasters in turkey's history. with more 47,000 people killed, just two weeks ago . president biden today weeks ago. president biden today promi

howart—thomson scored the pick of the bunch as she netted rangers second and third goals, with two hannah davisong and finishing the scoring. cristiano ronaldo has scored the 500th league goal of his career at his new club in saudi arabia. he had scored just once in his first three games for al nassr, but got four in one match as his club beat al wehda 4—0. ronaldo turned 38 on sunday, and he's now scored 61 career hat—tricks. with this one, his first in the saudi league, he got the referee to sign the match ball. ukrainian president volodymyr zelensky will address a gathering of more than 30 nations tomorrow. they'll be discussing how to respond to the prospect of russian and belarusian athletes competing at next summer's paris 0lympics. ukraine is threatning to boycott the games if those athletes are allowed to compete. britain's culture secretary lucy frazer say russian athletes �*shouldn�*t line up on the world stage�*. following russia's invasion of ukraine, the international olympic committee has been trying to develop a pathway, enabling russian and belarusian athletes to compete as neutra

there are i reports that jake davison had autism reports that jake davison had autism and asperger�*sake sure that notjust devon and cornwall police are getting it right, but every single one of the other police forces, because every police force will do it slightly differently, will have slightly differently, will have slightly different focuses on different resourcing levels, and when there is such a postcode lottery to how comprehensive and robust a gun certificate issuing will be, i think thatis certificate issuing will be, i think that is a real problem. we now know these problems, we know the issues from the inquests and from the other examples you have spoken about on your show today, the challenges for politicians like me to the governance, what are you going to do about it? for me, that means a robust review of our gun laws, it means a top to bottom review, and it means a top to bottom review, and it means taking serious questions about should pump action weapon be on our streets, should we have more regular reviews, so someone applying for a gun licence pay the full costs of

the carried out by jake davison. the inquest heard how the 22 year old legally held a shotgun but was obsessed with firearms. a lawyer for four of the victims families says there's been a catastrophic failure at devon and cornwall. police the system has hopelessly us in particular the devon and cornwall force has failed us. the evidence we have heard during this inquest over the past five weeks is a consistent of individual failures, breathtaking incompetence and, systemic failings within every level of the firearms licencing unit of the firearms licencing unit of the travelling cornwall police . the travelling cornwall police. well, it is away from home today , president biden promised more $500 million worth of aid to ukraine, after making a surprise trip to its capital. it comes just days before the first anniversary of russia's invasion . on the 24th of february last year , mr. zelenskyy said the year, mr. zelenskyy said the visit was an important sign . visit was an important sign. support for all ukrainians. th

the carried out by jake davison. inquest heard how the 22 year old legally held a shotgun but was obsessed with firearms. a lawyer for four of the victims families says there's been a catastrophic failure at devon and cornwall. police the system has hopelessly us in particular the devon and cornwall force has failed us. the evidence we have heard during this inquest over the past five weeks is a consistent of individual failures, breathtaking incompetence and, systemic failings within every level of the firearms licencing unit of the firearms licencing unit of the travelling cornwall police . the travelling cornwall police. well, it is away from home today , president biden promised more $500 million worth of aid to ukraine, after making a surprise trip to its capital. it comes just days before the first anniversary of russia's invasion . on the 24th of february last year , mr. zelenskyy said the year, mr. zelenskyy said the visit was an important sign . visit was an important sign. support for all ukrainians. the us

the inquest today heard davison. the inquest today heard how 22 year old legally held a shotgun certificate but was obsessed with firearms . a lawyer obsessed with firearms. a lawyer for the victim's family says there's been a catalyst of failure. devon and cornwall police the system has hopelessly failed us in particular, the devon and cornwall police force has failed us. the evidence we have heard during this inquest over the past weeks is a consistent story of individual failures breathtaking incompetence and systemic failings within every level of the firearms licencing unit of the firearms licencing unit of the devon and cornwall police . the devon and cornwall police. well is away from home. president biden has promised more than $500 million worth of aid to . that's after he aid to. that's after he a surprise trip to its capital. it comes just before the first anniversary of russia's invasion on february the 24th. last mr. zelenskyy , the visit was an zelenskyy, the visit was an extremely important of support

the inquest today heard davison. the inquest today heard how 22 year old legally held a shotgun certificate but was obsessed with firearms . a lawyer obsessed with firearms. a lawyer for the victim's family says there's been a catalyst of failure. devon and cornwall police the system has hopelessly failed us in particular, the devon and cornwall police force has failed us. the evidence we have heard during this inquest over the past weeks is a consistent story of individual failures breathtaking incompetence and systemic failings within every level of the firearms licencing unit of the firearms licencing unit of the devon and cornwall police . the devon and cornwall police. well is away from home. president biden has promised more than $500 million worth of aid to . that's after he aid to. that's after he a surprise trip to its capital. it comes just before the first anniversary of russia's invasion on february the 24th. last mr. zelenskyy , the visit was an zelenskyy, the visit was an extremely important of support

well, i'm jim davison after that.atherine caywood in happy valley final episode coming up this sunday can't. valley final episode coming up this sunday can't . why, it's this sunday can't. why, it's brilliant. she's a brilliant can't believe she used to be in coronation street watching and never say never seen an episode looks too dark for me but i know adam brooks of mine he's gb news he's very own lee anderson. he was here . mp conservatives on was here. mp conservatives on monday. i was in the parliamentary estate for another reason and lee come and found me literally gave me a tour of the whole of parliament, introduced to dozens of government ministers and mps, bought me a dnnk ministers and mps, bought me a drink and literally treated me like a mate and he didn't need to do so he's a good good bloke and a genuine guy. thank you ashley. you're going to be mine. is kate middleton her brilliant shaping campaign, which highlights the importance of early years education. so i really hope that this gives the message t

well, i'm jim davison after that.atherine caywood in happy valley final episode coming up this sunday can't. valley final episode coming up this sunday can't . why, it's this sunday can't. why, it's brilliant. she's a brilliant can't believe she used to be in coronation street watching and never say never seen an episode looks too dark for me but i know adam brooks of mine he's gb news he's very own lee anderson. he was here . mp conservatives on was here. mp conservatives on monday. i was in the parliamentary estate for another reason and lee come and found me literally gave me a tour of the whole of parliament, introduced to dozens of government ministers and mps, bought me a dnnk ministers and mps, bought me a drink and literally treated me like a mate and he didn't need to do so he's a good good bloke and a genuine guy. thank you ashley. you're going to be mine. is kate middleton her brilliant shaping campaign, which highlights the importance of early years education. so i really hope that this gives the message t

but i'm joined now by divorce coach sara davison . thank you very sara davison.is sara davison. thank you very much. i mean, this is this is this is pretty bleak. i mean, as somebody who is about to get married, will you just advise me not to? well, you know . no, not to? well, you know. no, absolutely. no, this isn't for everybody there. people listening. if you don't panic , listening. if you don't panic, really doesn't matter if you do live in one of these areas. honestly, if you have a good relationship, got good relationship, you've got good communication, you're going to be those people that be it's for those people that all communicating and those are all communicating and those are all problems . that's where all problems. that's where you can learn from this and maybe do something now to avoid that . can something now to avoid that. can i ask before i talk about some of the rules at home? what does a divorce coach entail? i mean, what do you what do you do ? what do you what do you do? yeah, it's an interesting sighs, right? patrick i help people to cope

as robert louis davison once said, the duty of a christian is not to succeed, but to fail cheerfully.nd so it's that that's the case. i fail cheerfully all the time. i'm very open about my religious affiliations. i'm to piscataway. and as you mentioned early on, i again want to be very clear that i don't see abraham lincoln as a conventional christian in any way. i think probably he died as a kind unitarian with a dose of new england transcendentalism of parker, emerson, i believe there's no doubt my interest in this part of human informed what i what doing part of it is taking someone seriously for what they and lincoln talked about this as you know a lot some of it was conventional rhetoric for a given but not all of it could be and so so in the panoply of human experience in the mix, things in our heart and mind and soul that lead us ultimately to make the decisions we make, religious feeling, a philosophical feeling, a sense of what the right thing is. what we're called to do plays a role, not always decisive, but it plays a role same way economic interests always play a role, but

twenty five year olde pi alexis davison. twenty one year old treasure bibs are picturect here.'td her >> and if you can't trust a woman with a throat tattoo, who can you trust? ust? yeauryeah, treasure bibs. a that sounds like a company that makes streetwise swag for babies. >> anyway, they allegedly also threatened to shoot the couple's kids to which the kids allegedly screame d. >> now, stop it. ki're on your side. now. i know the children, your family, all where treasureo bibs. >> so i won't start with the obvious. doi won't you have any neighbor interaction that can even compare to this? >> this is bananas. this is pretty crazy. >> i used to have an arab that s lived next to me and i was a . a >>zy and every time he mowed as one, he took a little of my land. i i would take a little his whenae i mowed oh that's a that had to be rough. and then was on .roug omar would come by and take his side like, screw you. that's that's very funny. walter kirn. yeah. what do you equate this to . >> what.equa i mean thite ts i mean the coupe answering the door.yo if you're having , how good

shaheen davison orange bond befriended brenda blaney and lived with her in thornton le dale. he went to strangle the pensioner and stab her in january last year. it's understood his asylum claims refused in 2017, but he couldn't be removed from the uk because there wasn't a deportation agreement in place with iran . a agreement in place with iran. a former child soldier has been locked up indefinitely after stabbing a strange ear to death in central london . 27 year old in central london. 27 year old teddy fanta from eritrea killed 60 year old stephen dempsey outside a store on oxford street in london in 2021. prosecutors say it was a ferocious, random and unprovoked attack . the court and unprovoked attack. the court heard that fanta suffers from paranoid schizophrenia and had a history of violence arriving in britain in 2014 , divisive social britain in 2014, divisive social media. andrew tate will remain in custody for at least another month in romania , the kickboxer month in romania, the kickboxer turned social media influencer is being held on suspicion of rape and huma

shaheen davison orange bond befriended brenda blaney and lived with her in thornton le dale. he went to strangle the pensioner and stab her in january last year. it's understood his asylum claims refused in 2017, but he couldn't be removed from the uk because there wasn't a deportation agreement in place with iran . a agreement in place with iran. a former child soldier has been locked up indefinitely after stabbing a strange ear to death in central london . 27 year old in central london. 27 year old teddy fanta from eritrea killed 60 year old stephen dempsey outside a store on oxford street in london in 2021. prosecutors say it was a ferocious, random and unprovoked attack . the court and unprovoked attack. the court heard that fanta suffers from paranoid schizophrenia and had a history of violence arriving in britain in 2014 , divisive social britain in 2014, divisive social media. andrew tate will remain in custody for at least another month in romania , the kickboxer month in romania, the kickboxer turned social media influencer is being held on suspicion of rape and huma

example, is saying davison for example, is saying that going to stand down that she's going to standof middle age, another ministerial age, could another ministerial comeback . she's age, could another ministerial comeback. she's standing age, could another ministerial comeback . she's standing down at comeback. she's standing down at the election . so the next election. so backbenchers are certainly feeling very nervous indeed . and feeling very nervous indeed. and there are lots of them who are worried that they're their constituents, of tory constituents, the sort of tory voting that the shires as were the tory voting shires, all tax cuts at heart and just won't feel the need to go out and vote conservative at the next election. they might not vote laboun election. they might not vote labour, but they might not vote at all. and if we something like we saw in west by—election we saw in that west by—election yesterday repeated across the country. of course there country. i mean of course there are all the usual caveats about by that would by elections, but that would result in 424 s

one of her biggest fans for all the wrong reasons, and one of britain's top jim davison.e i'm told jim you actually in hospital right pretty much the same time there you are sturgeon made her announcement jim with two things connected in any now are you okay yeah, i'm okay. well won't tell you what happened, but i won't be riding my bike for a long. thank god. okay yeah. you know, the telegraph poles and scotsman, they . yeah, yeah, scotsman, they. yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. well, i tell you where they touch down on and i was going to come on air and talk about a surgeon, not surgeon but now she's i'm okay. thank you thanks for all the best wishes it was just a routine check our men have up the oh yeah. a funny timing funny timing because at the same time sturgeon was off. yeah when i've got the surgeon, the sturgeon was off and you know what? i'm sad she's gone because there's a lot of comedians i know that do great impressions of her and she was so to easy take the mickey of now there's going to be another bloke turn up that no i'm going to do impression it's g

one of her biggest fans for all the wrong reasons, and one of britain's top jim davison.e i'm told jim you actually in hospital right pretty much the same time there you are sturgeon made her announcement jim with two things connected in any now are you okay yeah, i'm okay. well won't tell you what happened, but i won't be riding my bike for a long. thank god. okay yeah. you know, the telegraph poles and scotsman, they . yeah, yeah, scotsman, they. yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. well, i tell you where they touch down on and i was going to come on air and talk about a surgeon, not surgeon but now she's i'm okay. thank you thanks for all the best wishes it was just a routine check our men have up the oh yeah. a funny timing funny timing because at the same time sturgeon was off. yeah when i've got the surgeon, the sturgeon was off and you know what? i'm sad she's gone because there's a lot of comedians i know that do great impressions of her and she was so to easy take the mickey of now there's going to be another bloke turn up that no i'm going to do impression it's g

the direction of travel for an awful lot of people that i know a including dehenna davison who used to brilliant who even got a job was a junior levelling up minister has she's not even going to stand again in bishop auckland and i think it was last night or a couple of nights ago . nadine dorries said that even she wasn't going stand. what do you know , that they don't ? i you know, that they don't? i want to stand because still believe in the values and principles of the conservative party. and that doesn't change over the short term . i think over the short term. i think it's always great fun . look at it's always great fun. look at things like by elections happening at the moment and extrapolate what might happen. but we're two years away from a general election. it could be in january 25 at the very latest and is a very long time in british politics as we you specialise in defence as one of your policy issues and indeed worked in that sector . your policy issues and indeed worked in that sector. i think labouri worked in that sector. i think labour i know for a having talked to la

to the shotgun deaths of five people in plymouth on the 12th of august 2021, when 22 year old jake davisonis weapon on himself . my next guest, peter himself. my next guest, peter squires, a professor of criminology at brighton university, joins me now to discuss whether the time has come to change the laws governing gun ownership. good evening. thank you forjoining evening. thank you for joining me. good evening to you. yes tell me tell me, first of all, what is the scale of gun deaths , this sort in this country ? you , this sort in this country? you mean of people with firearm licences killing , dealing with licences killing, dealing with shotguns in the main? yeah almost entirely. shotguns it's the last real data that was collected by the home office referred to 14% of gun homicide kids being inflicted by people with a licence shotguns. since then, they've not kept the data. and i, i, i've argued that this is an oversight, but nevertheless . so the gun control nevertheless. so the gun control network has kept its own log of media reports of gun deaths. and we there are there are 30 gun

to the shotgun deaths of five people in plymouth on the 12th of august 2021, when 22 year old jake davisonhis weapon on himself . my next guest, peter himself. my next guest, peter squires, a professor of criminology at brighton university, joins me now to discuss whether the time has come to change the laws governing gun ownership. good evening. thank you forjoining evening. thank you for joining me. good evening to you. yes tell me tell me, first of all, what is the scale of gun deaths , this sort in this country ? you , this sort in this country? you mean of people with firearm licences killing , dealing with licences killing, dealing with shotguns in the main? yeah almost entirely. shotguns it's the last real data that was collected by the home office referred to 14% of gun homicide kids being inflicted by people with a licence shotguns. since then, they've not kept the data. and i, i, i've argued that this is an oversight, but nevertheless . so the gun control nevertheless. so the gun control network has kept its own log of media reports of gun deaths. and we there are there are 30 gu

tim davison, thank you so much. thank you.ly. thank much. that, of thank you so much. that, of course, the incredible. course, is the incredible. and he's comedian. a tv he's a comedian. he's a tv personality. is a legend . if personality. he is a legend. if you join me, welcome. it's you just join me, welcome. it's up to 24 minutes after 5:00. this is gb views. coming up, it is the great british debate this houn is the great british debate this hour. asking, hydrogen hour. i'm asking, is hydrogen the forward with the right way forward with energy secretary grant shapps criticism from his fellow tories due to planned hydrogen levy is . now really the time to be focusing on those net zero goals that's on the way after this . it is 27 minutes after 5:00. this is gds. we are the people's channel i'm nana akua. we're live on tv, online and on digital . live on tv, online and on digital. right. and it's time now for our great british debate this hour. and i'm asking, is hydrogen really the right way forward ? energy secretary grant

ruth davison is the ceo of the domestic violence charity refuge. shejoins me now in the studio.ive behaviour to l offenders of coercive behaviour to the sex offenders register, are you saying that doesn't go far enough? i am absolutely saying it doesn't go far enough. of course it will help to have the most serious offenders on this register, that is a positive step, but most crimes of this nature are not even reported. four out of five of the women we work with that refuge never go to the police and trust and confidence in the police has never been so low, so many people will be missed from this measure. to take radical action we need to prevent this at source and for me that is about education. we went last week to present a petition to the prime minister calling for mandatory education to help young women and boys recognise what is coercive control and what is a healthy relationship. ththd coercive control and what is a healthy relationship. and what res . onse healthy relationship. and what response did _ healthy relationship. and what response did you _ healthy relationship

with me now is ruth davison, chief executive of charity, refuge. 30 years minimum in prison.isfied, _ satisfied with that sentence? no, i'm not satisfied, i _ satisfied with that sentence? i457, i'm not satisfied, i think it is good thatjustice has been served and david carrick will now be behind bars for years, decades, and david carrick will now be behind bars foryears, decades, but and david carrick will now be behind bars for years, decades, but the reality is he was able to perpetuate these crimes for almost 20 years with seeming impunity. that's many women's lives have been ruined, irretrievably damaged, as the judge said, i think there no restoration for that, said, i think there no restoration forthat, is said, i think there no restoration for that, is the reality. he was protected by misogynistic culture and i'm concerned about other women who are scared to come forward and report. hertfordshire police, we heard, expect there are more victims and they are encouraging them to speak up. i want to express huge solidarity to the very brave woman who have brought him to t

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