. >> i feel like davy crockett at the alamo. >> you have just blown 20 seconds. [laughter] >> richard is mostly wrong. the problem is, i understand it clear weapons, but who has the nuclear weapons? we do not worry about britain and france having nuclear weapons. there is a difference between a scalpel, a knife, in hand of a surgeon or in hand of a mother in an alley. the problem is primarily who has them. tom, you said that arms control was not breathing about nirvana indeed bringing about nirvana. it is impossible to separate the two on that. it is not true that the soviet union collapsed because it is a rotten system that was bound to collapse. it is true is a rotten system that collapsed, but a lot of rot and systems around the world do not collapse. a lot of them keep building up their military, especially because that is the one thing they do very well. we just saw henry kissinger talking about north korea. that is a rotten system. that is far more run than the soviet union. they are doing fine on building nuclear weapons, and they are not collapsing, unfor