dawar butt is an environment policy analyst.ara hayat is a lawyer specializing in climate change policy. peter ophoff is the head of international federation of red cross and red crescent societies. i know you have worked in several different countries dealing with situations like this in preparation for them, peter. how does this situation compare with what you have seen? peter: thank you for having me on the program. indeed i have been working for the red cross red crescent for a long time. the situation we see here in pakistan is i would say unprecedented. we have been working in many operations. the last year, really devastating and the force that it has, people would clearly not prepared. nobody can be prepared for such a thing. the impact is huge. this is something we will see for a very long time to come as the situation is very dire in pakistan. rob: pakistan has faced severe floods before. it has had extreme weather on both sides of the scale if you like. this is something significantly different. what is different this