. >> as i indicated on an aggregated business, those events could be significant db systemically at risk, correct. >> is there anything in a systemic risk regulator could possibly do about that? >> that's a very good question. what systemic risk regulator would do would be to try to ensure that the examination of insurance companies' exposure to natural caps were properly managed, whether the grags of risks were managed. there are things to improve the situation, but depending on the situation, you're correct there may not be much that could be done. >> are there particular agencies to watch for a systemic risk in those extreme circumstances? >> we look the on it more of an aggregated basis. >> if your company went broke, who else would go broke? >> we don't have that many counter parties like other insurance companies, so i'm not sure i can really answer that question. >> as far as you know, would any other major entities go broke if your company went broke? >> no, sir. >> what about you mr. barrett? >> you're asking me to use my imagi imagination as to what a systemic risk regulator do

for a.m.a., it's a db it's an improvement in the way you pay physicians, even though i didn't write it, it's a pretty darn good new plan. there are benefits plus 40 million or 50 million people who are now uncompensated, if you will, who charity has to take care of, who will be putting money into the system because they'll have insurance. so i think every provider will, even though they're -- even though their per procedure rate may drop, the volume rate and their total revenues may increase over the period of the bill. >> i don't want to necessarily get stuck on one thing, because as you pointed out, there are a lot of moving pieces you have to figure out in terms of cost and financing for the bill, but in general, among the things on the table, are there various kinds of tax increases the committee is looking at for revenue? >> no, there is a -- there is in there, i think it's an 8% of gross payroll charge to employers and that's in a bracket, so that may be 6%, may be 8%, i don't know where the final number comes. there are no other numbers, and in terms of what we do, i think, ever

richardson and that is two this acing contractors' ability to me to db goals and this is a particular concern especially in places where there are significant pockets of unemployment or underemployment and i wonder if you can also speak to whether you believe there are any barriers to reaching out to small minority women owned businesses perhaps even as subcontractors on some of these projects? any idea? >> madam chairman, of my to take the opportunity to reply to that. is interesting, i was making noses you were speaking earlier. obviously we are using the same data goals and our problem of work in the stimulus and expanded role using stimulus funds. but one of the things that we have done is we have discovered that the stimulus part a great deal of interest on the part of dbe and traditionally the system of universal across the country you have a large dbe pool but a very large small portion of those dbe active in the day today bidding and participation in the dbe process so when we have embarked on in mississippi is to expand the pool obviously been more over to expand the those an

when there is a db of a point, mr. chairman, there does not seem to be any movement in compromiser i would encourage more discussion on some of these issues if we really want this to be a bipartisan bill. you know, the other thing i have trouble with is draft hearings. if we're going to have a legislative hearing let's have the legislation. this is draft legislation. if we had the great draft legislation hearing on climate change and then when the bill came before us, it at 300 additional pages in it. there is fear on our part that this is a sneaky way to say that, we had a legislative hearing, but you really don't have a legislation hearing. if you don't have a legislation before you. this is the democratic majority offering i. we claim a crisis, only government can be the savior, government must get bigger, and the middle class pays. and that's the issue here. and i was on goldeneye on the last congress would mr. stupak readily accepting the premise that we have to get inspectors into these facilities. and we are rea