. >> last question -- i noticed that you said dbe or sbe actual were significantly under the goals. >> we are working on that. i think they are working on around 3% or 4%. they will not unfortunately get to their goal. but we are finding out if they are under reporting or not reporting some of their trucking dollars. something has gone as you in the process, so that as part of the closeout we are doing with them and some final reporting on material recycling, items like that. >> is their opportunity in the sidewalk work to set aside that work for dbe's and/or -- >> it is very minor, but i will talk to the contractor about that. anything else? >> i really empathize. everybody has seen the cartoon with the disney name "contract" hanging behind a yacht named "change order" -- the dinghy named "contract." there was asbestos in it and we did not know that, but that does not mean that the contractor should not have done some things, but i am glad that those things are steering around in people's minds. that is the real question -- who bore the risk of something not being foreseen -- unfores

. >> is their opportunity in the sidewalk work to set aside that work for dbe's and/or -- >> it is very minor, but i will talk to the contractor about that. anything else? >> i really empathize. everybody has seen the cartoon with the disney name "contract" hanging behind a yacht named "change order" -- the dinghy named "contract." there was asbestos in it and we did not know that, but that does not mean that the contractor should not have done some things, but i am glad that those things are steering around in people's minds. that is the real question -- who bore the risk of something not being foreseen -- unforeseeable is different. unforeseen does not answer the question. >> good point. specifically on these buses, there was a report that the contract had at the time, and there were line items in their bid corresponding to what was anticipated, but for instance, in the asbestos-containing material area, there was significantly more than what the initial reports that they had at the time showed. including this popping material that no one anticipated. then, one of the other larger cha

. >> last question -- i noticed that you said dbe or sbe actual were significantly under the goals. >> we are working on that. i think they are working n