. >> could you tell us who the sbe and dbe goal was set and what level is that? is it a certain percentage of the contract? >> yes, it is a percentage of the work assigned to the firms. >> correct. what is that percentage? >> 100 percent. >> the goal is set at 100 percent. >> okay. >> and all firms achieve that goal that we had set. we short listed the firms and we interviewed all of the firms on october 15th. >> what does that mean? >> we reviewed all six proposals and we had a scoring based on the technical merit and the what they showed and the hours that they were intending to do and it was not cost-based in any way, and cost proposals were not reviewed at all and then, the proposals were then... and there were four different reviewers and myself, and a member from cal trans, and the member of the infrastructure and dpw who will be providing the services for their portion. >> okay. >> thank you. >> and short listed we took the top three firms and there was a large gap between the third and fourth ranked firm and so we had the top three firms come in from inte