and you chaired the dcc, which is where i know you from. are you saying that if you had any doubt that there were no -- there was no basis of investigating, there was no basis of a potential abuse of power on an impeachable act, you and the speaker would not have gone forward. you took a lot of flak from people that you should have been moving forward earlier, and you didn't. you took that flak, including from me. were you convinced you had to bring this to the senate that there was enough there that had to be investigated? >> reverend, what i would say is that it was very apparent as the investigation continued to move forward that there were serious actions taken by this president that concerned me, that were a clear violation of the president's oath to the united states of america, to the constitution, that jeopardized our national security, and opened up our three weeks ago corruption. when donald j. trump himself in the notes that he released show that he was asking a foreign president, the president of ukraine, for a favor, to investi