what i have not heard in general is new water supply and question is if de salinization is an issue and we look that sub sea water company our problem solve the problem how do you solve the environmental impact but what the impact to put it back in the ocean. what are the electrical costs. pipeline insulation costs if there's a leadership or new opportunity out there who will be responsible at least from how things done get the committee to put pipelines in. what is actual cost of water today and then we with this can form a solution. >> are you part of the de salinization group where it uses part of the depth of the ocean to reverse. it's pretty fascinating technology and one that raises the question that i'd like to throw in the mix. what happens when the energy line for this crosses our on vengsle sources today? >> i'm not sure the question the question asked who owns the pipelines. to me that depends where they are and who is served by them. lot of these kinds of investments, there maybe a call. the state obviously has along track record to investing in invasion. less though. whoeve

had a big chunk we went through recycled and i went through that by 2011 we will have added the de saline ization and the canals and the other part will represent ten percent of our supply portfolio. by 2020 we will have achieved a more diverse supply portfolio that is no longer solely dependent of the hydraulics coming out of the delta and colorado river. the second piece of the strategy is authorities capitol improvement category. we recently recosted our program which is a 20 to 25 year program and it will cost us 24 billion dollars to do that. if we truly want water supply and reliability we need to pay for it. it does not come cheap. someone asked earlier in the earlier panel. what if the projections are wrong. we're talking a lot of money. my concern is what if the projections are right? are you willing to jeopardize your communities water reliability by saying we may not have to do that? some of ourcip? what we're implementing may make no sense in other areas. where we're spending our money may make no sense in seattle where they have a different portfolio, supplies and timing. so

. >> are you part of the de salinization group where it uses part of the depth of the ocean to reverse. it's pretty fascinating technology and one that raises the question that i'd like to throw in the mix. what happens when the energy line for this crosses our on vengsle sources today? >> i'm not sure the question the question asked who owns the pipelines. to me that depends where they are and who is served by them. lot of these kinds of investments, there maybe a call. the state obviously has along track record to investing in invasion. less though. whoever benefits from the pipeline needs to day for it. the energy issue is an interesting one and that's why we have to pay attention not just from total energy but what's the actual energy profile. when are you using it and what's the source of it some it's a very different more complicated issue when you look at the trade-offs and in,maurine, what's the case with de salinization and the pattern, where you can avoid peak it's a lot more complicated. >> i think another issue is the technology. the cost using membranes has dropped while e

we're part of a de salinization and we're now going to spend another hundred million dollars in moving. the delta is getting saltier and we think that will be a trend that's moving and particularly with some of the run off patterns so we'll invest in that. our 50 year water supply program. we will be 7 hundred thousand people whether we want to or not we were 3 hundred thousand. one of the fastest growing areas in north california. we're serving less water than we were when i got there. that's corner stone of our growth. anybody that does not know what that means what that means with respect to drought or any emergency you may have is not playing with affair deck. when you harden the demand you must have flexibility. our reservoir is not one for supply. people are taking shots at that. it was built as a water quality salt reservoir and a fish asset and some people said it's appose tear child for bad storage. and they said it's exactly off stream storage that uses peak demands in an area effects by issues today. there's diversity kabs and the keys for our future. so if i can get you to