. >> i was the chairman of the deacon board at one time. i'm sl a deacon there. i am a believer. a believer. i teach class ix, sy school class ix, an adult class. ix, an adult class. maybe 35 or0 people attended. >> that must be interesting. >> it is. we really try to makee word become alive in our lives as our understanding. i also teh also teach old testament. >> that's what i understand. >> old testament one and two wih the leadership institute that was founded by dr. smith senior. i am a and him and aryan graduate. graduate of san francisco state. >> okay. >> high school at oakland tech but i am married to dolores gibson miles, the flower of ber. of berkeley. >> she is going to be looking at be looking at this. >> yes. we live up in marin county. i was in law-enforcemenr 30 years. >> 30 years. >> started in the brooklyn polie department for 30 years. i came over to novato as a captain and a deputy chief there. i still live up in novato. >> i did not know you had a police background. i was at a jl day and they said that their chh their church does a lot of workd liles has been

was a chairman of the deacon board at one time. i am still a deacon. i i am a servant, believer. i teah i teach sunday school class ix, an adult class. it is interesting. we really try to me to make the word become alive in in our lives and context as our understanding. i also teach old. old testament. old testament one one and two with the leadership institute. i am a seminarian gr. seminarian graduate. graduate of of san francisco state. high school to oakland ,. i am married to dolores gibson, the flower of berkeley. >> she had better be looking at this. >> yes. >> we love up in marin county. i i was in law enforcement for 30. 30 years. started in the berkeley police department for 20 years and came over to -- as a captain and deputy chief. and, and, i still live up there. >> i told you earlier i did not know you have that police background in law enforcement. i i was at a gym one day and they said their church, allen temple do a lot of work and you have been that liaison. he said wow, he is a police officer. i said i i did not know that. he said yes, he has had a lot of exper