now a number of carriers, dealtia we're into our third year of significant profitability but we still have an industry that is not in a stable situation given the tumultuousness of what airlines are going through right now. i think we have the responsibility to be serious about what is it going to take to have real national airline policy in this country? i can tell you china does. i spend a lot of time there. we have two of the three partners -- our partners are china eastern and china southern. i've spent dozens of trips there. they view aviation as a national asset, one of the most important strategic assets of china. are their airlines. but we don't seem to have that same sort of vigor here in the united states that i see traveling around the world, whether it be mexico and the revitalization of air mexico, which is now one of the most profitable airlines in the world or latin america, central america. so the past 9/11 -- since 9/11 it has been a difficult decade but without government aid, we've made enormous strides in this industry. if you look at where delta is, where united i