were upper most known or suspected terrorists in it are new york houston san diego chicago and dearborn michigan which is this kind of a. list or major cities and then dearborn they want to do that considering that largest concentration of arab americans actually live in dearborn michigan not far from where i'm from mexico is forty percent of its population is from dearborn which kind of begs the question you know is this just profiling are these names that they're kind of throwing on this list clearly just for profiling. you know when you talk about numbers earlier six hundred eighty you know the out of the six hundred eighty thousand. six hundred eighty hundred dollars on the people on this you know how forty percent of that be people with no known affiliation to terrorism and that's a huge number to come out that's right that's huge and this is after we heard about the guidelines to which how they determine who should be on this list of course they're very loose the guidelines with you know people putting you know random people on the list with me or suspicions but the report also gets into t

mike tobin is live in dearborn, michigan. e talk in islamic community there in dearborn? >> reporter: arthel, the imam at the islamic house of wisdom in dearborn, michigan, was anxious to condemn isis out of concern people will view all muslims through the same prism. he denounced the isis rebels as ignorant, ego-driven animals who he says are damaging islam. the effort to force the religious minority to convert or impose sharia law is he says, against the tenets of their faith. >> i would prefer this constitution often times more than that shameful, so-called, sharia law, that isis and other extremists, they are talking about. >> reporter: now pressing the notion that the violent islamic radicals are a small minority of muslims, elahi supports military action against the rebels in iraq but would prefer to see it come in the form of support for the iraqi or kurdish forces. arthel? arthel: yeah, certainly didn't, the imam didn't minutes any words there. talk to me now about the reaction to last night's aid drops there in iraq.

what happened in dearborn heights, michigan.s is a nationwide problem. >> if you had to say what the problem is, in a sentence, what is the problem. >> the fundamental problem i think is the inability to recognize the humanity of african-americans. when we look at the person who is walking down the street, when we believe that this person is someone other than a citizen, that this person is not entitled to the fundamental rights and respect that any other citizen would be entitled to, and therefore the interaction takes a different direction. >> is it a belief or is it a sort of set of kind of subconscious prejudices upon which a whole bunch of institutional actors are acting? i've known a lot of police officers in my life and know a lot of them have -- it's a can't-win job many times. you were called upon, a police officer all the time, to essentially litigate things you can a adjudicate disputes you can't. it seems to me there's subconscious and institutional things working through people rather than an affirmative belief. >>

he was associate professor at the university of michigan dearborn, where he directed master of public policy and master of public administration programs. he received his phd from m.i.t. normally, we have a lot of university of chicago, m.i.t., conspiracy. today, it seems like we have a michigan, m.i.t. overlap, with john being up the chicago deal to some extent. with the introduction of the speakers, i will turn things over to john mueller. much.nk you very it is nice to be here. i will change the order of things i'm talking about. i did not realize i was going to be going first. like to put i would on the table, essentially, that fit into this. sortirst one, basically, of sets the overall image. states has fought four worse come along, ground wars, since world war ii. it is possible to well compare the degree to which the wars have been supported. the same poll question, you think it was involved in get this conflict, was asked in each of the four worse. the pass for the four wars are there at the very top, afghanistan, and it will not be too easy to see, but the other three wars, i