amna: that is secretary of the interior deb haaland joining us. thank you for joining us.me back soon. ♪ amna: in the federal criminal cases involving former president trump this week, we've seen the first legal skirmishes. significant questions over venues and evidence, and from trump himself, a push for the judge assigned to his criminal trial in d.c. to recuse herself. lisa desjardins has more on the brewing legal fight. lisa: the former president has set on his social media platforms that he couldn't receive a fair trial in a case presided over by this judge, who was nominated by former president obama and 95-0 in the senate. she issued sentences in cases involving january 6 rioters. this is one of the former president's arguments to shape the perception of the trial in these important early days. joining me as the former u.s. attorney of the southern district of new york. let's start with the idea of venues. how often do judges, given this argument, agree with defense attorneys that a venue should change? >> these are rarely granted. there are applications made but ra

department of interior secretary deb haaland visited the area and met with tribal leaders just a few nths ago. she joins me now. welcome and thank you for joining us. sec. haaland: thank you for having me. amna: you've described your may visit to the area as one of the most meaningful trips of your life. explain to us why this land is so important to indigenous communities. sec. haaland: yes, well, earlier in the summer, we had an opportunity to hike down the grand canyon to the village to visit with the tribe there. who live at the bottom of the grand canyon. at one time, they were banished from their ancestral homelands and it took a lot of work by tribal leaders and supporters and some lawsuits. they were painstaking about meeting their travel homelands back. they were back on the floor of the grand canyon. they had a chance to visit with people where they are. it's astounding. they are living on the lands that their ancestors lived on, this beautiful blue-green waterfall. they cherished that land. the bonds of their ancestors are there. i understand how important those places are

secretary of the interior deb haaland discusses a new monument near the grand canyon that protects sacreds land and bans mining. and, many american cities look to convert vacant corporate spaces into housing units as the future of downtown office work remains in question. >> what we're seeing right now is a lot of developers and owners making that decision to go residential, because there's a lack of confidence in the office market. ♪

but just a couple of years ago, the secretary of the interior deb haaland who is of course, a native american, announced an initiative to investigate the boarding school systems in to really listen to the stories of survivors and to understand how the boarding school system was a and machinery for erasing culture. what is important us to understand is these processes for erasing american culture were going on at the same time processes of collect native american culture integrating native american objects into museums and studying native americans societies. so i think it's very important for us who are interested in culture and human rights to see how these process pieces are unfolding at the same time and to really question what the links are. did native americans sort of accept all of these? of course, they're they exercise their agency in figuring out how they were going to counter these events or what decisions they were going to make and how they were going to resist and. i want to take a special case of the zuni pueblo to discuss how at least one native american group embarked

for now, with deb haaland, the secretary of the interior, this is a big win for folks. >> yeah, and aul area that we're seeing here. in the best way possible for right now, bill weir, thank you so much. jim? >>> warrants out in an official news conference set for the top of the hour on that ugly riverfront brawl in alabama. the fight appearing at times to break along racial lines. what police are saying. >>> plus, the battle heats up over a proposed protective order in the election meddling case. trump's lawyers say it would violate his first amendment rights. the doj says trump wants to try the case in the court of public opinion. the deadline is moments from now. >>> florida governor ron desantis made another big change as he continues to trail trump by a wide margin. those details and much more ahead on "cnn news c central." r. ♪ with 30 grams of protein. those who tried me felt more energy in just two weeks! uuuhhhh... here, i'll take that! woohoo! ensure max protein, 30 grams of protein, 1 gram of sugar. enter the $10,000 powered by protein max challenge. ♪ ♪ let innovation refun

now, before i close, let me say a few words about the symbolism of deb haaland, the current secretary of the interior, being the first native american to hold a cabinet post in american history. in the latter part of my book, as i mentioned earlier, i discussed in some how starting in the decades after world war two native nations increasingly demanded and sometimes one, a greater consideration of their strong connections to ancestral lands that are now in public ownership. they have, for example, worked with congress and the executive to safeguard cultural sites exert more influence how public lands are managed. in a few cases has conveyed lands. a special cultural significance back to the tribes in fact, the interests of native nations and the advocates for protection of public lands overlap not not perfectly, of course, but they overlap a great to take just one example federal management agencies are just as is happening in many nations around the world, drawing more on the traditional knowledge of indigenous people for guidance in managing these large areas. protect biodiversity,