michigan democratic congresswoman, debbie dingell, joins us now. she serves on the health subcommittee of the commerce panel. and when the task force members came to capitol hill to testify you focus your questions on that -- on vaccine development. can you ask plain what it means to be in phase three -- can you explain what it means to be in phase three? guest: as you go through the development of any medicine, the vaccine is extremely important and it goes through different trials. we see what happens in a , frequently they try , and thene on animals a small human trial and a larger human trial. you want to see how effective it normally you have 70 to 80,000 people in the third phase and we are seeing this and there aredly 8000 and one trial and 30,000 in another. it's not as large a sample as you would like to see. for almostdr. fauci 40 years. and they assured that they were going to make vaccines were safe. and yesterday they released a thatline for the safety they would use before they release it. and we are very anxious for this we get abeca

i have had you and representative debbie dingell on stage, where you talked about how you finish each other's sentences frequently. it is a story of bipartisanship that many americans are not used to seeing. if you have any reflections on that in the time of covid and whether or not the bipartisan glue between you and every dingell -- aunt debbie dingell, if there is any chance of that, because we saw it early on. right now, it looks very toxic again. is a toxic place. it comes with the territory. the day, you have isen a student of this oth for a lot of years. if it never moves one way or another, house, senate, white house, nothing happens. i am encouraged. we actually made it to the world series once in my dad's lifetime. back in twocomes weeks, i am encouraged we are going to have a good discussion, constructive. we will look at phase four of a package. it will be bipartisan. it will be passed in the house narrowly on a partisan basis, over $3 trillion, likely to be less than $1 trillion, but it will include money for states, cities, and counties. if they are going to open this fa

in fact, i have had you and representative debbie dingell on stage before, where you kind of talked about basically how you finish each other's sentences frequently. it is a story of bipartisanship that many americans are not used to seeing. if you have any reflections on that in the time of covid and whether or not the bipartisan glue between you and debbie dingell, if there is any chance of that beginning to take hold when it comes to this crisis in the congress. because we saw it early on, but i have to tell you right now it looks very toxic again. rep. upton: it is a toxic place. it sort of comes with the territory. we have divided government, let's face it. at the end of the day, you have been a student of this for a lot of years, too. at the end of the day, the only way you get something done is if it is bipartisan. if a bill starts in a very partisan way and never moves one way or the other, house, senate, white house, nothing happens. i am encouraged. i am a cubs fan. we actually made it to the world series once in my dad's lifetime. i am encouraged -- as congress comes back in tw

michigan democratic congresswoman, debbie dingell, joins us now.he serves on the health subcommittee of the commerce panel. and when the task force members came to capitol hill to testify you focus your questions on that -- on vaccine development. can you ask plain what it means to be in phase three -- can you explain what it means to be in phase three? guest: as you go through the development of any medicine, the vaccine is extremely important and it goes through different trials. we see what happens in a , frequently they try , and thene on animals a small human trial and a larger human trial. you want to see how effective it normally you have 70 to 80,000 people in the third phase and we are seeing this and there aredly 8000 and one trial and 30,000 in another. it's not as large a sample as you would like to see. for almostdr. fauci 40 years. and they assured that they were going to make vaccines were safe. and yesterday they released a thatline for the safety they would use before they release it. and we are very anxious for this we get abecaus

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it could clear up a lot of these conspiracy theories that i heard with debbie dingell just before you. could you respond? guest: first, i'm a big supporter of vaccines. if you look through history, without vaccines the number one cause of death in children was infectious diseases. childhood infectious diseases was at the top of the list. is everything perfect? no. are there side effects? yes. but vaccines causing things like autism has been debunked for years. so i'm not aware that the package insert, the description of the product from a pharmaceutical company is not of aded in the packaging vaccine. i would have to confirm that, but there's no medicine in the united states that's distributed that does not have an online or as a co-package and third -- or package insert to describe the possible side effects. everything in our bot -- we put into our body has a side effects pray the package insert for aspirin is surprising. i think will are aware of possible side effects, allergic reactions that are local or systemic, some people can get a mild version of the flu with the flu vaccine.

is also -- john dingell pretends to be a reasonable moderate but is an actual political hack, debbie dingell. john dingell who was -- in the history of the country, i forget if he was there for 50 or 60 years, his last act was to call for the abolition of the united states senate. of course the senate also, it's not, the founders didn't create a democracy. when i first came into the right i was always unused by conservatives who said we are not only a democracy, we are a republic. that's actually the case. when franklin was famously asked what he had created, he said consummately asked him, he said a republic, madam, if you can keep it. but it was deliberate, the two senators from wyoming, of course that was a wyoming in those days but we have now to senators from wyoming which is a population 500,000, two senators from california has a population of 35-40 million. very deliberate because it was designed to frustrate the majorities because of the founders understood that human beings are not all that rational. i mean, the creation of america is a kind of miracle, the founders, the people mad

john dingell who is will pretends to be a reasonable moderate but is an actual political hack, debbie dingell. don dingell was the longest office holding congressman in the history ofthe country . i think it was over 50 or 60 years, his last act was to call for the abolition of the united states senate but of course the senate also, the founders didn't create a democracy . when i first came to the right i was always amused by conservatives who said we are not a democracy, wherea republic . that's actually the case. when franklin famously asked what they had created he said a republic, if you can keep it. but it was deliberate that two senators from wyoming, that of course wasn't wyoming in those days but why we have no two senators from wyoming as a population of 500,000 and two senators from california which has a population of 5 to 40 million . and it was designed to frustrate the majorities because the founders understood that human beings are not all that rational. i mean, the creation of america is a kind of miracle. the founders gave made the people the sovereigns. they have a king, the

michigan democratic congresswoman debbie dingell will join us, talking about the response to the coronavirus pandemic. the conversation continues with their the shun, a medical doctor, on his legislation to increase testing. live washington journal wednesday morning and be sure to join the discussion with your phone calls, text messages and tweets. >> this is a crisis. people are losing their lives. >> police reform taking center stage. watch unfiltered coverage of the latest developments. the government's response to the coronavirus pandemic. now weere going down and stayed about flat and now we are going up. >> congress on health care. line onek there is a should not cross where governmental power issues are exclusively for benefit. we will standp: proud and tall. >> during the conversation every if you missed any of our coverage. you can watch on c-span.org or this and on the go with the free c-span radio app. >> during wednesday's white pressthing, this -- the

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morning, michigan congresswoman debbie dingell will join us to talk about the coronavirus pandemic.he conversation continues with republican congressman larry dishon on legislation to increase testing. watch washington journal wednesday morning and be sure to join the discussion with phone calls, facebook comments, and tweets. live wednesday on the c-span networks, the house returns at 9:00 a.m. to continue work on the democrats' infrastructure bill. a vote on final passage expected in the afternoon. that is on c-span. on c-span 2, the senate meets at 9:30. members are debating the 2021 defense programs and policy bill. c-span 3, then house foreign affairs committee hosts a hearing on china's national security law in hong kong. c-span.org,ay on the house small business committee holds a hearing on the economic injury disaster loan program which provides an advance of up to $10,000 to small businesses who have lost income due to the pandemic. at noon eastern, the house select committee on intelligence looks at u.s.-china relations and the impact on national security and intelligence.

defazio: at this point i would recognize the honorable debbie dingell from michigan for two minutes. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlewoman from michigan is recognized for two minutes. mrs. dingell: thank you, mr. speaker. i thank the gentleman from oregon for yielding. i had my lesson. i rise in strong support of this en bloc which includes an important bipartisan natural infrastructure amendment that adds h.r. 3742, the recovering america's wildlife act, to h.r. 2. when we talk about infrastructure, natural infrastructure, habitat restoration, and resilience projects must be part of the conversation. such investments not only create jobs, up to 33 created perfect million dollars of investment, but they make communities safer. they grow our outdoor recreation economy, and help recover at-risk wildlife populations. this amendment will enable states, territories, and tribes to complete proactive, collaborative, on the ground habitat restoration and the natural infrastructure projects that will recover more than 12,000 wildlife, fish, and plant species of the greatest conservation ne

leland: joining us now is john dingell's widow, debbie dingell, the house co-chair of the democraticmmunications commission. our condolences, i know you lost not only a colleague but a dear, dear friend. what was it about john lewis that allowed him to have these intense personal friendships even with people at times he agreed with and other times he didn't. >> john lewis is just a very special person. he knew that you could disagree with people, agreeably. he knew if you respected them, that maybe you could bring them around. he was a man of peace. that was one of the things that he always said and there were people that attacked him back in those days. john dingell and john lewis knew each other from the '60s. they were friends from that long. many of those people who were wrong in the '60s acknowledged it years later, because he didn't give up, in fighting for what was right. leland: it's interesting. through all of that, somehow john lewis and your husband as well in a different way, but never embraced the bitterness that we see today or the violence or the level of animosity tow