debbie goldman and joseph mccartin. thank you so much. first, let me say a pleasure. it is for me to be doing this event with debbie and before such a packed audience here, a very knowledgeable people, some of whom i think are in the book book. i first encountered debbie years ago when enrolled in a seminar i was teaching at georgetown and the u.s. labor and history and to see the work she already had in mind. when i met her 17 years ago, this book come to fruition in a really remarkable volume. i would say. i think that's going to have a big impact on how historians like i think about recent u.s. labor history. it's really such a pleasure. so, debbie, if you would maybe start, it would be interesting. me and many people, i think, to hear what your journey was that led you to write book. well, joe, first of all, thank you for that lovely. and i also to acknowledge and thank politics prose not only the best bookstore in washington, dc, but probably in the country country. and a union shop represented by the ufc w and i want to acknowledge the owners when employees want