debbie heins has been with us all along. very quickly, a time frame on the sentencing once it's done by the jury. how long do you think it will take? >> the judge can't increase the sentence, he can only undercut the sentence or give the same sentence. usually what they'll do is order a presentence investigation report and other favorable information. but it could be within a matter of days or weeks. >> this could happen fairly quickly. >> and also, you were saying your take on this particular verdict? >> my take on it is, it is a compromised verdict. there were people that were pulling for a lesser and obviously some pulling for felony murder or first-degree murder. but it is still a case of domestic violence and i think there was enough evidence for first-degree murder. >> defense attorney was in no win for this particular case? >> he had an uphill battle. >> thank you so much. we appreciate your expertise tonight. this has been a long running case. it's not quite over yet. but obviously the share of the work has been done