debbie nathan, can you respond?> i think essentially what has happened is there is going to be an outsourcing. it has a ready happen. a group ththat hasas been invold in advocatining for unaccompmpad minors suddenly within a few days has collected almost $20 million just t om the pubublic, from peoeople out in t the commy all over the country and probably the world. they and other groups and lawyers s i think have comome together outside of the governrnment and they y will be going in and trying to locate parents in detention. they will be trying to do this work, exactly what the lawyer who took delia's kates did. there are hundreds of people getting ready to do this or are ready doing it. -- already doing it. i think it will be this privatized outsource reunification effort going on already, very heroic. i don't think 2300 children are never going to see their parents again. i think it will take a long time. it is not systematic. as i said, i don't think the government is going to be the entity responsible for thes

ronald morgan speaking in his brownsville, texas, courtroom in late april, in audio obtained by debbie nathannd featured in her report for the intercept. debbie, this whole issue of lawyers, one lawyer representing 30, 40, 50 people? obviously, they cannot have much in terms of individual information about the --ortunity for the particular person? >> the getting between seven to 10 minutes of counsel rubber for the proceedings. i talked to public defenders who tried very, very hard to get information that would be sayful -- i was going to client, but to the defendant. for example, make an effort to find out whether they crossed with their children and whether the have a claim of -- credible fear claim that would allow them later in the process to claim asylum. it is in so inconsistent. i was in court in el paso last week and there were 60 defendants and they were split into three groups of 20. so each group of 20 had a lawyer. i interviewed one lawyer who told me of his 20, not one of them had been separated from a child and not one of them had been asylum claim or credible fear claim. so the

. >> joining us now, the reporter behind that story at "the intercept," debbie nathan. so glad to have you back on. we have video of the reunion between delia and her son. by want to show that in a minute. first, just tell us the story of why she came across the border and what happened after she crossed. >> she suffered very severe physical abuse, domestic violence at the hands of her part that she had been with for many years who's also the father of her child. he was also threatening to kill not just her but also the little boy. so she tried to get away from him and she wasn't able. he followed her and actually she showed me numerous scars and disfigurements that she has on her body that he inflicted upon her with weapons. so she basically left. she fled guatemala and came up through mexico. she went across the rio grande river in an inner tube and walked right up to three border patrol agents who she saw waiting. turned herself in. she said they made fun of her when she told them she was coming here because she was afraid for her life and her partner had abused her,