entered the room and after they suppressed the fire, not during the murders. >> that meant debbie reinboldt'smony about the lamp had been false. even more troubling were facts callaghan learned about the purported murder weapon. >> the knife that deborah reinboldt presented was a folding knife, where the knife bends over. that knife had a blade of 5 and some inches long. >> one of the things the pathologist did was measure the depth of the wounds. on both bodies, the wounds were more than 6 inches deep. we then took it to michael baden. and he provided us with an affidavit and analysis. >> what board certifications do you have? >> three areas of pathology. anatomical, path logical, forensic pathology. >> there was a hilt on the knife. there would have had to been a hilt mark. i felt like, wow, i had this evidence that these two men are innocent. they're going to finally be freed. we're going to be able to actually conduct an investigation and try and find out who the real killers are. >> randy's incarceration had torn his family apart. randy's brother, state trooper rory steidl believed randy