when you do a no-fly zone, there is almost always a chapter to debbie rowe. -- two. >> mark? >> i find myself agreeing with charles, which means that one or both of us are wrong. [laughter] it is definitely a time of soul- searching. at the same time, we have found out these are not cakewalks, as they were billed in iraq or afghanistan. for that reason, we just have to make that judgment. >> that make a correction, there are two muslim members of congress, the other one being andrea carson. npr's bumpy ride ahead. >> it is clear that we would survive. >> that is ron schiller, formerly the head of fundraising. he was taped speaking to fake muslim people. he had some unpleasant thing to say about the republican party, tea party -- said they were racist. after the story broke, the ceo resigned. i offered nina to take -- the chance take the week off. she wants to defend her company. >> i cannot defend the top executives and at cannot necessarily even defend the board, but i can defend the product. there is a reason we are the only news organization, other than fox, with a growing