he should reach out to debbie stabenow right now and say, senator, join with me and we'll get carriertake it nationally. >> why is it when democrats propose that stuff, it's called socialism, and when you propose it, it's called patriotism. >> it's the same thing. medical savings accounts, dick gephardt at one time was a co-sponsor and supported it, but when obama got into power, oh, msa, medical savings account, horrible thing, and all the democrats started against it. i think the american people are fed up with the politics. elijah cummings said today he wanted to work -- very liberal democrat, as you know, wanted to work with trump. >> she was saying, no, democrats should be the resistance. republicans did it to then president obama when he first came in. democrats should -- it's payback, essentially. >> every meeting right now, and i've been in most of them or called in, among the are progressives is, should it be obstruction, war to the knife, stop this guy everywhere, or should there be a more constructive opposition to help the country. >> which way does he come out? >> you kno