so -- debbie trapman, are you here? >> yes. >> let me introduce debbie trapman. debbie trapman has been a part of the process of overseeing this draft on the staff level. by the way, is a nurse herself. did you want to comment on that provision at all? >> thank you. thank you. it's a pleasure to be here. can you hear me ok? i am a nurse and i'm very happy to be here and talk to you about health care reform and to see so many of you here to comment specifically about the readmission. what we're trying to do is improve the quality of health care. we just -- we heard a story that probably is not unfamiliar to many of you all in the room, but there was an 82-year-old gentleman that came to the hospital, his wife had recently died, so for six months, he has been on his own. he was discharged from the hospital on eight different medications, andas required to follow up with five different doctors. he couldn't do it. he didn't have the support, his wife is his primary support, he didn't have family support around. he ended up coming back into the hospital. we don't want