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let's get the other side, the florida democratic congresswoman debbie wasserman-schultz joins us. thanks very much for coming in. >> great to be here. >> as far as a vote is concerned, authorizing the use of military force both before the speech last night, after the speech last night, it still looks like a huge uphill struggle if not impossible in the house of representatives. given the long-standing opposition, the strong opposition not only from many conservative republicans but many members of the liberal democratic base. is that a fair political assessment? >> well, i think actually, what's the most important development is beyond the president laid out a very convincing case both in terms of the evidence that he presented to the american people, that assad actually committed this attack and murdered almost 1500 of his own people in cold blood but also the moral case. and i think what's clear here, and i think this is the discussions i've had with colleagues over the last 36 hours is that many of us if not most of us believe and understand that the president won't have this p

debbie wasserman schultz from florida, chair of the democratic national committee. thank you for being here. >> thanks for having me. >> be a pundit for a moment and tell me how this ends. >> i can tell you how i hope it ends, as a member of congress who represents hundreds of thousands of people in south florida. i hope it ends with cooler heads prevailing on the republican side of the aisle, where they finally understand that they should not hold the economy hostage, that they should not play chicken with our economic stability by tying a completely unrelated issue, obama care, the affordable care act, to whether we are, a, going to keep the government running or, b, pay the nation's bills. that's totally and wholly irresponsible. >> and republicans will say and have said, first of all, obama care will affect the budget, does affect the budget. we are spending on the budget. more than that, they hope democrats will come to their senses and do some negotiating. if it's so important and it's going to be so terrible when the government shuts down, shouldn't some demo

and debbie wasserman schultz. they've been tasked with this decision on your behalf. and we have some breaking news this evening. the senate foreign relations committee announces it will take up a revised bill tomorrow authorizing use of force in syria. the bill has a 60-day limit with an option to extend that for another 30 days. at this very moment, president barack obama is over the atlantic ocean on a flight to sweden, hours after top members of his cabinet began pushing his case before lawmakers and before you, the public, as to why striking syria is the best course of action to end the bloodshed we've seen there and preserve u.s. national security interests. today, the president sent his team to the senate to make his case. >> are you going to be comfortable if assad, as a result of the united states not doing anything, then gases his people yet again? >> facing public opposition and a skeptical congress, they said using chemical weapons against your own people is so evil, it's only been done three times. >> the third instance was used by adolf hitler to gas mil

debbie wasserman schultz, thank you so much. joining me now is robert costa with the conservative national review, and cnbc contributor, who himself has been pulled into the maelstrom of the gop civil war. okay, i'm going to read you two quotes. this is my favorite. this is a senior house republican source quipping to "huffington post" about ted cruz. cruz is the leader of a secret cabal of leftists that are seeking control of the conservative movement. their aim is to force the party to take on suicidal missions to destroy the movement from within. now, that's not that different from a number of off the record quotes that you got today in a really good piece you wrote for the "national review" about cruz's critics. when that piece was posted, the very influential radio show host, mark levine, tweeted that, "why is nro trashing cruz?" did you trash ted cruz and how did you get pulling into this thing? >> mark levine and others are championing ted cruz. i think he's doing a great thing by trying to tie the cr to defunding. but wh

. >>> well, florida congresswoman debbie wasserman-schultz joins us from the hill. what are you hearing from your constituents about this? >> well, andrea, my constituents, like many of my colleagues' constituents andlike myself, quite frankly, are weary. they're weary of war. i can tell you that i believe and many of them believe that president obama was right to propose a limited strike because as the only super power left in the world capable of actually making sure we can hold a leader like assad accountable for the horrific and abhorrent murder of almost 1500 of his own people, including hundreds of children, that it's absolutely our responsibility to do that, to degrade and deter him from doing it again. and i think the president made an effective and forceful case last night that there was the evidence that assad did that and made the moral case, particularly on behalf of children. i mean, as a mom, that's what's been seared in my mind from the beginning of this, since we learned of this -- these horrific attacks. i think it's essential. the other thing, andr

. >> here is something who could be more positive, florida congresswoman debbie wasserman-schultz joining us from the hill. thank you for being with us. >> you're welcome. >> what are your colleagues about to do? i know you're going to blame it on the republicans, but lets face it, no one is talking to anybody up there. the house seems to be in particular bad straits. >> we're in a situation in the house of representatives where we quite literally have house republicans who are willing to take the economy over a cliff. at this point it's just a matter of which car we take. is it the car that says we're going to default on our debt and throw the nation into really significant economic crisis or are we going to shut the government down all over rigid adherence to ideological dogma. the proof was really in the pudding. it shouldn't be about fault here, andrea, but there is a way out of this where we sit down together, figure this out and find common ground on the crux of the matter. when it comes to the budget, how we're going to make decisions about targeted spending cuts in this budget tha

. >> let me bring you into the conversation, congresswoman debbie wasserman-schultz. >> thanks, chris. >> i got a lot of emails from conservative groups say and one was from the tea party express, while you slept he fought to keep people from obama care and it asked people to tweet and call representatives. with what ted cruz did yesterday is it a concern that it energized that wing of the party? >> oh, you know, that wing of the party is at its lowest point in polling that they've ever been. the the tea party is ranked extremely low, looked very negatively upon by the american people, but the bad news for the american people is that the civil war that the republican party's been engaged in is the victor is clearly the tea party and to the victor goes the spoil. so now, you know, with the republicans in their caucus meeting as we speak, it's really because they're so reckless, you don't know what is going to come out of there, but it is very clear that the next fight whether we're going to default and whether we'll pay our nation's bills, to the victor goes the spoils, a smorgasbord f

she supports the president, representative debbie wasserman-schultz. also chairs the committee. thanks for coming in. >> you're welcome, thanks for having me. >> explain why the president decided to require congressional authorization for using force to punish the syrians for using chemical weapons. we have a list of other examples, where nothing along those lines was required. ronald reagan invaded grenada in 1983. the same as george h.w. bush in panama in 1989. bush did the same thing in somalia in '92, bill clinton bombed iraq in '98. bill clinton led the nato bombing of the former yugoslavia in '99. no congressional authorization. obama launched tomahawk cruise missiles to get rid of gadhafi in 2011. no congressional authorization. why do you believe it's necessary now? >> well, let's be clear, the president is not does not believe he is required to seek congress's authorization. what he believes is that when congress authorizes his proposal for a limited targeted strike so that assad understands that our response to his violation of a 100-year-old international norm not to

debbie wasserman-schultz says not everything about obamacare is sacred. in the dam. maybe the delay was possible. a for effort. where do we go from here? if all the outcomes are true, you have obamacare in the position you don't have the delay feed. one of the biggest things i think they could do, i think i had this wrong a couple months ago the congressional exemption for obamacare is something the republicans could deal with, and david vitter and a few others. they're so worried about it they don't allow it to have a vote and start to use personal attacks about the past. >> this is what i don't understand. the house was sort of shamed into doing this because they tried their parliamentary trick. i think you're right, the party is divided. if the republican party doesn't stand up here and unite on this as a bold different alternative to democrats, as far as i'm concerned, there's not a dime's worth of difference. this is the biggest entitlement boondoggle in the country's history. >> i gave you a hard edged argument two weeks ago and you went straight up

even debbie wasserman-schultz says it. >> that would drive me insane. >> it would be awesome. >> almostou over. >> if it was you the world would collapse. >> i have i work to do. >> two of you and two of hannity? there is not enough place in the world to hide. >> wow. i thought we were friends. >> we are, man. i tell you, most people -- >> who was there in the hospital when your finger was a mess? your finger was getting cut open, who was next to you? >> i am -- >> who was in the emergency room? who got my doctor out of his house to come with you? >> you're my dear friend. you have done wonderful things for me. i admit it. i was not dropped on b my head as a child. >> and he's operating on your finger. who stuck his head in to watch. >> the doctors couldn't look because it was ugly. you're frustrated and you want to be a surgeon. >> he is. he just sliced and diced you here. >> i called one of my best friends and said help my buddy. >> we were on the golf course. >> this is what it's like being friends with bob behind the scenes. >> i have been at his house. i have been in all the rooms.

another is debbie wasserman schultz, chairwoman of the democratic national committee. there are 20 and i'm estimating here, but i believe there are 29 hard nos among democrats. that includes a barbara lee of california, some people who have been very anti-sort of conflicts in iraq et cetera. the issue here is given the specter of iraq, the white house has gone out of its way to say this is not iraq, and made that point repeatedly, but remember the last huge foreign policy vote many of these people took was iraq and they felt as though that went awry and think worry about doing the same again. >> that's exactly the point that was being made over and over again to secretaries kerry and hagel yesterday at the hearing. thank you very much, kelly. thanks, chuck. >> thank you. >> and here in washington, girl power, the word from the national zoo today, that the 2-week-old giant panda, yes, it's a girl. i don't know how you tell but scientists can. the scientists from the smithsonian announced the panda's gender this morning and were able to determine the panda's father using

first, democrat debbie wasserman schultz and republican senator tom cole. listen. >> this searing image as a mom of babies lined up dead, i -- as a mother, i would want, god forbid, in the suburbs that i represent, a tyrant went after our babies that a nation as strong as the united states would stand up for my children. >> the core of my concern is it's a civil war, and it's a religious war. i'm not sure it directly impacts the national security interests of the united states. >> libby, we see the divide. we have democrats talking about to do something about these chemical weapons and republicans or at least people skeptical about whether or not it's the u.s.'s responsibility. is that a fair representation of where the politics is coming down? >> reporter: it is. we're seeing more divisions inside the parties internally. you really hit on it. moral obligation, what is the mobile obligation of the u.s. to act? what does it mean for u.s. defenses? for the safety of the american people? even on those two questions, there are a lot of different perspectives on

debbie wasserman schultz, allen grayson, not afraid to tell like it is.nal reaction? >> well, unfortunately, the republicans are still talking that they're going to vote, once again, like 40 times was not enough, they want to vote to repeal obamacare. and shut down the government if they have to. that's insane. they cannot do that, because we all know that nothing is going to happen if they vote one more time to repeal obamacare. but if they shut down the government, then they're really hurting the people. so i don't understand this mentality of the republicans, but the democrats are fighting tooth and nail, trying to make sure that people understand what the real obamacare means, and how much it means to all of us. and you know, it makes you wonder. if the republicans are trying so hard to stop you from getting it, it must be because they're afraid. >> no question about that. annette, great to have you on "the ed show." thank you so much. coming up, would god side with the republican party? michele bachmann seems to think so. we'll break it down with our

. >> joining me now is florida congresswoman debbie wasserman schultz. great to have you here.of fast moving parts. you have come out publicly supporting any strikes on syria. what do you make of the, now, proposal of syria saying it will agree to russia's idea to put their chemical weapons under international control? >> well, as the expression goes, trust but verify. we have to make sure we reverse it and say let's verify, then trust. then what president obama has always said throughout this conflict is that our first priority and our strong preference is to make sure we facilitate a diplomatic solution. the credible threat of a limited military strike has brought syria and russia to the point where they for the first time have, one, acknowledged that syria used chemical weapons and, essentially, and, two, they would be willing to turn them over to international control. and so it's a positive development. but that credible threat, because of the abhorrent, immoral attack that killed 1,500 of his own people still has to row main in place because that's the only thing i think

debbie wasserman schultz, nobody knows where she'll be going from the current position. so to get a woman and highest level of leadership innocent with the new. on the republican side i can tell a lot is the one to watch. -- kelly ayotte is one to watch. mitch mcconnell feel she is fairly popular in the caucus. she's indymac train, graham, she's the third musketeer taking the place of joe lieberman. so she's always going to get a lot of media attention and publicity that way. assumed she rises up, gun control structures on right now, i'm sure she will, i think that she's going places. the other token woman from it's too soon to tell. susan collins is a little too moderate for the rest of the caucus, now that she's been term limited out at the homeland security committee. >> host: i'm not sure, special where she has now lost a friend in lieberman. he was her pal, too, on homeland security. they create a homeland security department, for crying out loud. >> guest: she has had a lot of influence, the 9/11 bill with something had together on the floor. the two of them were a

i owe it to him, but looking forward to it, bob shrum, plus debbie wasserman schultz. >>> futures arewe broke our five-day losing streak and we may resume it today, you never know. "squawk box" will be right back. >>> we have four days away from a possible government shutdown. and after that, lawmakers will have to deal with the critical issue of the debt ceiling. let's get right to the debate with our guests, bob shrum and joe watkins. also -- i hope you ate your wheaties. you've got shrum and representative debbie wasserman schultz, author of the new book "for the next generation: a wake up call to solving our nation's problems." good morning one and all. >> good morning. >> i'm just going to -- let's get them. i'm maybe a little bit more aligned with joe, but i want to see this as a smackdown, a tag team. why did you agree to this? you've seen debbie before, right? >> of course. >> she can smoke you alive. >> she's going to try. >> congresswoman, i'll ask you one thing, and i saw this, "washington post" talking to something that i guess our colleague chris matthews said, pointed ou

joining us now is republican congress woman and debbie wasserman schultz, chairman of the democratic you both of you for joining us. let's start with that first question, members of congress in a shutdown still get paid? is that right and if you were not going to get paid, you'd think there will be less chance of a shutdown? >> i will say that i am confident that the government is not going to shut down. that's the last thing that we need. i don't want to give the government check b.c. to barack obama. >> that is exactly what will happen. obamacare will continue oget fund and he will be able to pick and choose what he continues to fund. >> all right. what about you guys getting paid through the shutdown if there is one? do you think that that is right? >> this again, i think the question is moot. we are not going to shut down the government. i think debbie would agree, that would be a worst case scenario. >> well, then, i do agree with you, renee and all we have to do is have the republican leadership when the senate bill comes back to the house today without any exstrainious already

well, professor, let's play a clip of congressman debbie wasserman schultz, head of the democratic national your thoughts afterwards. so, let's listen to what she has to say. >> for me, as a mother, you know, to see that searing image of babies lined up murdered by their own government, innocent children? i mean, as a jew, wolf, i have to tell you, as a member of congress who represents one of the largest holocaust survivor populations in the country, to me, the concept of never again has to mean something. >> pretty powerful statement. what is your reaction to that, professor? >> it's powerful sentiment, and many people in the administration still remember how the u.s. government didn't respond to things like rwanda, where there are other humanitarian crises that haunt presidents who lived through them. and so, i think that is the sentiment that the president wants to tap into, but at the same time, with the memory of iraq, he has to explain why this and not others and what the mission is, what our goals are so that this doesn't become an endless war and that the casualties and blowback po

there are democrats who would support the president, a handful of them, congresswoman debbie wasserman schultzled in that attack. then a significant segment of democrats who are concerned about potentially starting another long-term war. they remember that they were asked to vote to authorize the use of force in iraq and that conflict still hasn't ended. that group of people is going to be a particularly heavy lift for this president at this point. >> kasie hunt live on capitol hill, thank you. we will check in with you later this afternoon as well. >>> for more on this all this right now i'm goined joined by booth and rajan with "the washington post." thank you both for being here. >> good to be on with you. >> you covered the first two years of the iraq war from baghdad and you've written extensively about the effort to rebuild there. what do you think u.s. military strikes would mean for syria in terms of realities on the ground? >> i think, unfortunately, it's not going to change a whole lot. a couple of days worth of air strikes with cruise missiles, maybe bombs launched from u.s. aircraf