again and that's the reason i can see the state of things, that i had a relationship with debbie wasserman schultz and she's a nice person and a good person. that's one of the parts of today. another question? smack debbie wasserman schultz, i love her and was listening to her area she is so funny. [laughter] >> i don't know how you mean that -- >> she's hilarious. that being said, why do people come home from washington and hear us but never listened to us? they never go back and do what we asked them to do. they go back and do what they want to do instead. it depends where you stand on the issues and ultimately at the end of the day the biggest battle to remember with congress is what your conscience demands that you do but balancing that with what the constituents want because it is not always the same. i think sometimes members of congress over complicates things. >> if you go into congress to get rid of obamacare and then say we are not going to do that now -- >> this political situation is the craziest ever. i don't know how to make sense of it and i've been a political animal since i was 15

the democratic national convention because it was clear based on all of the emails that debbie wasserman schultz was in the tank for hillary clinton trying to take bernie sanders down. she gets pushed out. on day one of her conference, her convention, what are they going to do quick to they completely changed the conversation. look over here, look over here. they start grading this narrative about russia and they have just been writing it ever since, it's working for them. >> it's a farcical thing at the moment where you've got tillerson over there being as tough as you could possibly be, you've got everyone around trump being the same and people are still trying to push a narrative that he's the poodle, this is not how poodles behave. i know people who have not poodles. they don't bite everybody. >> i think he gave us such leverage to tillerson going into this meeting. all of a sudden the u.s. becomes that much stronger and real leverage against -- >> sean: he doesn't hold back, he was with the secretary-general of nato, he was like you guys have to pay more. i thought of those were good things

juan, there's nothing grassroots about the party that debbie wasserman schultz was running where they the deck against bernie sanders and were all in on hillary clinton, a candidate who everybody -- even democrats -- knew couldn't win. >> we have to define grassroots, because in american politics today, it's the anti-establishment type of populism, right? yes, indeed. everybody wants that because he's the winner, he's the president, right? but for the democrats, you've got to isolate it, and i think what you come down to is people who voted for president obama who then switched and votes for president trump. they're democrats, often in key states -- wisconsin comes to mind, but you could also extend that to michigan, north carolina, florida. and, you know what? you find out they're white, blue collar folks. and the question is if that's grassroots, bernie is right, because bernie appealed to those voters. dagen: but debbie wasserman schultz, what has she been imbibing since she stepped down from the dnc, because that's not the party she was running, and that's not how she viewed the v

congress again and that's part of the rob i can say these things i had a relationship with debbie wasserman schultz the is a nice person and a good person in congress it's tough to say that and that's one of the unfortunate parts of today. another question. >> deb debbie wasserman assault, i love her, so funny. >> i don't know how you mean that -- >> she is hilarious. that being said, why do people come home from washington and hear us but never listen to us. they never good back and do what we ask them to do. they're representatives. they go back and do what they want to do instead. >> depends on where you stand on the issues. ultimately the -- the biggest battle for a member of congress is what you -- what your conscience demand you do. how you feel in your heart. but balancing that with what the constituents want. it's not always the same. think sometimes members of congress overcomplicate things. >> if you're voted into congress to get rid of obamacare and then you say we're not going to do that now, how -- >> let's leave that with the here and now. this political situation is the craziest ever

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there's still very bad feelings toward the way debbie wasserman schultz ran the dnc.'s so many democrats still resentful about that. i think for good reason. that's why tom perez is working so hard in his travels to bring the party together. i applaud bernie sanders for doing this trip with him. it's a good sign of unity for the democrats. >> sandra: and what could be a sign of what's happening with both parties is this special georgia election happening. what is it going to tell us about republicans and democrats? >> well, it's gonna tell us very little. these races are not canaries in the coal mine. last week's kansas. the south carolina, montana or any other special election. what happens with these is we're seeing democrats and republicans in a battle for the narrative going into 2018. these races themselves won't make a difference. in 2010 democrats won three special elections and said we're going to be fine in the midterm elections. of course they lost 63 streets. this is for the narrative. democrats want to win so they can have some media and everybody else hav

within two days, the head of the dnc, debbie wasserman schultz, resigned her post in part because the emails showed the dnc worked behind the scenes to discredit and defeat bernie sanders who was challenging , hillary clinton for the nomination. less than three months later, wikileaks began publishing internal emails from clinton's campaign chairman john podesta. soon donald trump was praising , , wikileaks on the camampaign trail. pres. trtrump: this jujust came. this just cacame out. wikileaks -- i love wikileaks. amy: between october 7 and election day, wikileaks would go on to publish 20,000 of podesta's emails generating a rash of negative stories for the clinton campaign. juan: u.s. intelligence agencies have accused russia of hacking the dnc and podesta accounts but many questions still remain about what happened. during a recent congressional hearing, fbi director james comey placed the blame on russia intelligence when questioned by congressman adam schiff. >> do you know whether the russian intelligence services dealt directly with wikileaks or whether they, too, used an int

remember the phrase, senator noyhanan, is it possible we'll come to miss debbie wasserman schultz.ernie sanders needs to be heated. this is an odd situation. it is a very serious matter. when you take an issue of such fundamental importance, and remember that lots of people in this country, including democrats, believe, you know, as ca catholics or jews or protesta s protestants, one must be careful about this, it is life. to rule it out category you are not welcome here is a big mistake. it is a mistake morally, a mistake theologically, but for what we're looking at tonight, it is a big mistake politically. they need to listen, did i ever i think would say this, to bernie sanders. >> martha: he has spoken up quite a bit on the college issue as well, in terms of allowing free speech, encouraging dialogue, living in a world where we can respect each other and listen to each other's views. he wants a big tent. >> you said very wisely, you said wisely about michigan and wisconsin. i think if you had one catholic in each parish in michigan change their mind and vote for clinton, rather

the rage of these bernie sanders reporters, especially after the wikileaks came out and the debby wasserman schultzhat there was colluding to get hillary clinton in and she lost in spectacular fashion. but if your message is we hate donald trump, that is not a recipe for success. >> poor tom perez. he's driving around this bus with a popular politician trying to -- >> look at the demographic breakdown in the harvard-harris survey, it's unbelievable. women 58% favor bernie sanders. men 55%. african americans, 73%. >> part of that, i'm wondering because i've zone a parallel between younger supporters particularly that were enamored with ron paul. it's almost safe to idealize these politicians because you know they're never going to whip. >> there's one thing about this long-term, millennials -- we talk about millennials. 90 millions person strong generation. they believe that socialism is a better system of government and economics than the free market and capitolism. >> thanks, colleges. >> they might grow out of that once they get out in the real world, but right out in long-term, that side doesn't

there was a time when the market was digesting the information and then debbie wasserman schultz a slowsouth. we've just -- we lost everything, you know, all of the gains we had. >> if that is the case -- by the way, it didn't help oil which was strong was weak on production data. >> right. >> a couple of other reversals. it feels like the old day where the fed could come out and move markets with every utterance. in this case it is the fed minutes. there you have it. >> interesting day. meanwhile, retail continues to struggle against the trend toward e-commerce. morgan stanley highlighting a surge in store closure announcements, over 2,000 announced for the first quarter this year compared to 1,000 last year and only 100 reported in the fourth quarter of '16. >>> plus rbc capital markets is expecting things to get worse for various brick and mortar retailers, naming nine brands it expects to have the largest revenue deceleration this year. top of the list is a center retail group, under armour and coach. even ulta is on this list, and that may be because things -- you know, have you to

brian: i never thought debbie wasserman schultz would be longed for.you imagine if reince priebus before he was chief of staff would have used that language out on the stump of course the press would have been apoplectic about it. ainsley: candidates love bernie. everyone chanting bernie. bernie, bernie. she says the future of the democratic party and then the crowd boos. bernie did not even want this guy to be head of the dnc. he wanted keith ellison. totally a divided party. when i talk to my friends that are democrats, who is the next up and coming leader? even nancy pelosi was asked that and she said hillary clinton is the face of the democratic party or. brian: barack obama. ainsley: there has got to be somebody that comes up in the democratic party that is compromising. brian: i have a young face for you. remember this guy? >> what is clear to anyone who looks at where the democratic party today is that the model of the democratic party is failing. clearly the democratic party has got to change. and, in my view, what it has got to become is a gra