but governor desantis, senators rubio and scott, congressman debia wasserman schultz, and -- debbie wasserman schultz, and the mayor, they've been -- they've all cooperated in ways that i haven't seen in a long time. and it's really a testament to how difficult things are down here and it's what, quite frankly, we miss a lot. you know, we've all been working in tandem from the moment begot the news -- we got the news of the collapse of the building. i think my colleagues will tell you we cut through the bureaucracy. the one order i gave the federal folks was, no bureaucracy. just cut through it. get to whatever they need. that's why we decided to cover, for example, 100% of the search and rescue costs for the first 30 days. knocked -- not done often but necessary here in my view. fema is going to provide temporary housing and other urgent needs for the survivors. state department is expediting visas for family members from other countries and there are from latin america, south america, europe, israel, and i want to give a special shoutout to first responders. international association of fir

debbie wasserman schultz was hillary clinton's campaign. and so then some kind of deal is whereby deborah wasserman schultz becomes the head of the d n. c. and tim came steps down. now if your hillary and you're thinking strategically that you're going to run again for years, have your campaign mad as head of the d n. c controller of the if you like, the regulator who's regulating and i'm the nomination competition is a huge strategic advantage. ok. so that now that's why ford and the 20000 dnc lake, the mouse that okay, so they're from debbie was an short head of d. n. a. and 6 other prominent people finance communications. and so what they show is that within the dnc, there was a u, a unity of the most senior people, including there wasn't shows to act against bernie sanders, elimination process and for every kind now what, what particular actions were performed? well, there's a lot of discussions, it's a discussion about we can use a captive report and push out the fact that very sand is, might be an atheist and doings is going to copy in

. >> rubio and scott, congressman debbie wasserman schultz. they have all cooperated in ways i have not seen in a long time. it is a testament to what -- how difficult things are down here. it is what quite frankly we miss a lot. we have all been working in tandem from the moment we got the news of the collapse of the building. i think my colleagues will tell you we cut through the euro chrissy -- the bureaucracy. one order i gave the federal folks was no bureaucracy. get to whatever they need. that is why we decided to cover 100% of the search-and-rescue caused for the first 30 days -- search-and-rescue cost for the first 30 days. necessary in my view. fema is going to provide temporary housing and other urgent needs for the survivors. state department is expediting visas for family members from other countries from latin america, south america, europe, israel. i want to give a special shout out to first responders. international association of firefighters, one of the best organizations in the country. i particularly want to thank the presid

democratic congresswoman debbie wasserman schultz joins me now.ou for taking time out this subbed. your state is barely below the national average for people being fully vaccinated. what do you think explains such high inaffefection rates? >> i think we have a governor who has not taken covid searcy from the beginning. he has campaign merchandise on his website saying don't fauci my florida. and we've had nearly 40,000 floridians die of covid. we have, we are contributing 20% of the covid diagnosis in the country right now and we're on the rise. and look, i would rather see us fauci our florida than have people go through death by desantis. that's what we're facing now. he actually had a law pass in the florida to prohibit local governments from being able to enact measures like mask requirements and social distancing to keep people safe. you can't make this up. that's where the blame lies. at his feet. >> the question is what more would you have him do? he has decided his handling. he is staying government shouldn't be meddling in this. it should

again, i think the governor, i thank my colleagues, senator scott, senator rubio, i think debbie wasserman schultz for their total, complete cup cooperation. there is no disagreement or bickering, everybody is on the same team. it's what america is all about stuff host: that was president joe biden yesterday in surfside, florida. the june jobs report trounced expect tatian's -- trounced expectations. some members of congress and shooting chuck grassley saying adding these jobs in june, the pre-pandemic best economy started by the trump tax cuts, it is roaring back after a virus interlude. also from congressman don buyer of northern virginia saying the vaccinations driving the huge job growth and vaccines are free, safe and will save your life. eric from hopewell junction, new york, good morning. caller: good morning. it's with a heavy heart that i understand this is your final day. i think that's true. host: one more day. caller: ok. but you will be added to the unemployment rolls. i expect a book or a memoir, you have had an amazing perspective all these years and i've watched all you guys try to

i thank debbie wasserman schultz for their total complete cooperation. there's no disagreement, no bickering, everybody's in the same team. it's what america's all about. it's about pulling together. leaving nobody behind. and that's what made me feel, the one thing that made me feel good about this is the cohesion that exists. there's no democrat or republican out there. just people wanting to do the right thing for their fellow americans. so, may god bless the victims and their families and may god protect our first responders. and i'll take a couple questions right now. reporter: mr. president, what were you told today about the likelihood, you said, hope springs eternal, but that somebody will be able to be pulled out alive from this? what were you able to convey to the families about that possibility? pres. biden: well, look, first of all, the families are very realistic. they know the longer it goes -- one of the things that the local fema personnel, as well as the local first responders did is they took all of the families to the site to see, to s

congresswoman debbie wasserman schultz represents surfside, florida, and was with the president todayh the families of the people who were in that apartment building when it collapsed last week. debbie wasserman schultz joins us, next. (realtor) the previous owners left in a hurry, so the house comes with everything you see. follow me. ♪ (realtor) so, any questions? (wife) we'll take it! (realtor) great. (vo) it will haunt your senses. the heart-pounding audi suv family. ♪ limu emu & doug ♪ oh! are you using liberty mutual's coverage customizer tool? sorry? well, since you asked. it finds discounts and policy recommendations, so you only pay for what you need. limu, you're an animal! who's got the bird legs now? only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ ok everyone, our mission is to provide complete, balanced nutrition for strength and energy. whoo hoo! ensure, with 27 vitamins and minerals, now introducing ensure complete! with 30 grams of protein. feeling sluggish or weighed down? ensure complete! it could be a sign that your digestive system isn't working

. >>> joining me right now, florida congresswoman debbie wasserman schultz, democratic member of thepriations, oversight and reform committees. you've been at the briefings, standing behind the governor there and the miami-dade county mayor. we're on day nine here and tropical storm elsa is, as we just heard, threatening to put a stop to all of the search and rescue efforts. do you get a feeling there's still a sense of hope there? >> there is, and it is thanks to the incredible search and rescue teams that we have expertise that is the top in the world in and our search and rescue teams and the israeli teams and federal teams that have been rolled in, they are telling us there is still hope to find survivors and everyone wants to make sure to hold onto hope. at the same time we're trying to ensure that we care for both the survivor families who got out of the building and lost everything, as well as the families who still have loved ones under the rubble. and it's just been excruciating. these are people who i know in my role as their member of congress, i'm going to have to help th

i thank debby wasserman schultz for their total complete cooperation. no disagreement, no bickering. everybody is in the same team. it's what america is all about. it's about pulling together, leaving nobody behind. that's what made me feel good about this, is that the cohesion that exists. there's no democrat or republican out there. just people wanting to do the right thing for their fellow americans. so may god bless the victims and their families and may god protect our first responders. i'll take a couple questions. >> what were you told today about the likelihood you said hope springs eternal but somebody will be able to be pulled out alive? what were you able to convey to the families about that possibility? >> well, look, first of all, the families are very realistic. they know the longer it goes -- one of the things that the local fema personnel as well as the local first responders did, they took all of the families to the site to see, to see what it looked like up close. they're all real lists. they all look and see the floors, cement upon ce

senators rubio and debbie w wasserman schultz and mayor cava. things are down here. it's what quite frankly we missed a lot. i think my colleagues will tell you we cut through the bureaucracy, the one order i gave the federal folks was, no bureaucracy, just cut through it, whatever you need. that's why we decided to cover for example, 100% of the search and rescue cost for the first 30 days. it was necessary here, in my view. fema will provide temporary housing and other urgent needs for the survivors. the state department is expediting visas for family members from other countries. there are from latin america, south america, europe and israel. i want to give a special shoutout to first responders. i particularly want to thank the president that came down from boston. he's here with the entire group. these folks are always showing up no matter what. they're risking their lives. there's that old expression, i know the press that travels with me is tired of hearing me say it but i'm not tired of saying it. god made man, then he made firefighters.

c chairperson, debbie wasserman, schultz, and calls for the imprisonment of hillary clinton herself. this all due to the wiki lake of thousands of 1st e mails from clinton's account, separate to the ones you should have been using on us state department of the could there be more that could put the presidential candidate behind bars? i'm asked 100 times. it is going on the ground outside the ecuadorian embassy in london, where wiki likes found julian sanchez when arbitrarily detained by the british government for 4 years. we ask julian us on whether he has the email that could put hilary clinton in prison and talk about whether the next leak could change the outcome of the us presidential election. that's all coming up in today's special edition. i'm going underground. julius i thanks for agreeing to this interview. are you worried that you are in this m, allow a t of to being accused by henry clinton basically of the russian government. we know russian intelligence agencies hacked into the dns they were giving now publishing all the act emails. i don't think we're here from the cons

we've had our united states representatives, debbie wasserman schultz, who has been fabulous, as havell of our state-elected officials, but the governor has been especially engaged. he has been here almost every day. i know he flies down from north florida. he talks to us. he tells us what his concerns are. as a matter of fact, i owe the governor a debt of gratitude because with his help, we were able to provide information to the mayor of dade county that she needed in order to get this demolition going sooner than later. i know she was getting lots of information, lots of conflict conflicting information, but from the very beginning, the governor and i urged her to knock this building down as soon as possible. the building has been a problem since the very beginning, and we need to eliminate all of the barriers to getting everybody out there. once this building is down, it will be a green light, full-speed ahead, and maximum effort to pull the victims out and reunite them with their families. the mayor's leadership ability has been incredible. she has been decisive and tough and com

c chairperson, debbie wasserman, schultz, and calls for the imprisonment of hillary clinton herself. this all due to the wiki lake of thousands of 1st emails from clinton county separate to the ones you should have been using on us state department of the could there be more that could put the presidential candidate behind bars? i'm actually in return. see, this is going underground outside the ecuadorian embassy in london, where wiki likes found julian sanchez when arbitrarily detained by the british government for 4 years. we ask julian on whether he has the email that could put hillary clinton in prison and talk about whether the next lee could change the outcome of the us presidential election. that's all coming up and today's special edition, i'm going underground. julius i, thanks for agreeing to this interview, and you're worried that you're on this shamela t of being accused by hillary clinton basically of the.

florida congresswoman debbie wasserman schultz joining "balance of power" with david westin next on bloombergadio. guy: i will be going to bloomberg radio in london. will be doing the cable show. dap digital radio is -- dab digital radio is where you will find us. from taylor and me, this is bloomberg. ♪ >> from the world of politics -- >> at the end of the date infrastructure is primarily local. >> to the world of business -- >> it is not the case the fed has been going astray and needs its leadership changed. >> this is "balance of power" with david westin. ♪ david: from bloomberg's world headquarters in new york to our tv and radio audiences worldwide, welcome to "balance of power." we will start once again with a check on the markets. joining us is kriti gupta. bonds keep going up but stocks are rolling up. kriti: stocks finally catching up to the bonds. it is not one sector outperforming the other which is what we have seen in the last couple of weeks. it has been the growth of performance going back to the safety trade. today it is widespread. all the way from small-cap, which is more o

raskin: i'd invite debbie wasserman schultz for her five minutes of questioning. ms. wasserman schultz: thank you so much, mr. chairman. similar to what we see now in texas, right after the 2020 election, election supervisor and former governor desantis praised the election process. the way florida did it inspires confidence. i think that's how elections should be run. desantis changed his tune because donald trump was emotionally incapable of accepting the results of the 2020 election and he needed to whip the fringe of his party into a frenzy to further his own aspirations. the result was a florida voter suppression bill that mirrors what we see proposed in texas. making voter registration harder, limiting voting by mail and curbing the secure ballot dropoff boxes many of the floridians used in 2020. these blatant anti-democratic bills are in search of a problem, at the very least. we saw a rare expansion of ballot access. we not only allowed people to stay safe but gave flexibility to communities of color who face voting obstacles. representative thompson, it's so

i think debbie wasserman schultz, for their trouble and --total and complete cooperation. there is no disagreement, no bickering. everyone is on the same team. it is what america is all about. host: that was president joe biden in south florida. front page of "usa today," the grief stricken family members awaiting anywhere. "it would take a miracle, as the time continues to dwindle. the threat of instability eating away the hope for rescues in florida. the operation was halted yesterday because of building movement and concern that the other tower was about to collapse. in confirmation of two children, one 10, one four. their parents also died in that condo." front page of "usa today." joe is next from alabama, republican line. good morning, joe. caller: well, didn't have any republicans when they investigated trump for the russian conspiracy, so i guess they are not going to have any republicans on this, either. also, it's really strange when cops shoots a black person and kills him, the news has names of the cop, where he lives, for hours. and here this cop murdered a pr

debbie wasserman schultz is here with us. good to talk with you.have a lot of people still grieving, but now you have real-world problems for the people who survived and once lived there. they lost their life savings, perhaps. you have others who live in the communities watching their insurance rates skyrocket, the values of their condos plummet, therefore their life savings at risk. this is going to have a lot of unintended consequences on the local economy, is it not? >> yeah, no question about that, chuck. the ripple effect of this unique and unprecedented tragedy becrowd just these are people who have had their lives shattered into a million pieces, now we have to pick them up one by one, making them whole is nearly impossible, certainly could not with what the normal federal assistance that's available, but also to make sure we look down the road as to how we can prevent this from happening again, and also make sure we stay with the families who have lost everything, or who have lost everything plus their dear loved ones, and make sure when th

republican senators marco rubio and rick scott and local leadership, democratic congresswoman debbie wasserman schultz and the mayor of miami-dade county daniella levine cava. he says he thinks the federal government will be able to pay for 100% of the cost of search and rescue operations here. the president was also asked about causes of the collapse. he said at this moment it still remains a mystery. >> let's turn to the new details coming out about the champlain towers condo association. the majority of the condo board quit over frustrations that residents were delaying the building repairs. this was back in 2019, two years before the building collapse. nick, what exactly was the issue between the board members when it came to the repairs? >> reporter: we spoke to structural engineers here in south florida who say in their experience they often do get pushback from condo board associations especially if maintenance suggestions, the price tag of them are high enough. we don't know whether there was pushback in this case, but we do know there was turmoil. this 2018 report didn't appear to be just sug

you can see, obviously the officials there, including debbie wasserman schultz, governor desantis behind her. we will bring you any headlines as soon as we hear them. we're also monitoring something else, over tess mouse president biden is speaking with his national security team, and the agenda, more than 90% complete, we're waiting to hear from the president publicly, and he'll be deliver a critical speech by the taliban's advance across afghanistan, the concerns this could set the country on a path to civil war, district after district falling to the taliban. peter alexander is at the white house. richard engel is in kabul. you had a top general warning that afghanistan may be heading toward a civil war. you've been taking us inside low the u.s. left bagram. what do you anticipate will be the reaction to the president's remarks closely watched not just by americans, but by people around the world? >> reporter: afghanistan is already back at war. it's back at war with the taliban, but unfortunately it's mostly a one-sided war. the taliban is making advances. the afghan security forces,

i thank debbie wasserman schultz for their total and complete cooperation.sagreement, no bickering, everybody is on the same team. it's what america is all about, pulling together, leaving nobody behind, and that's what made me feel -- the one thing that made me feel good about this is the cohesion that exists. there's no democrat or republican out there, just people wanting to do the right thing for their fellow americans. so may god bless the victims and their families and may god protect our first responders and i'll take a couple questions right now. >> what were you told about the likelihood -- you said hope springs eternal -- that somebody will be able to be pulled out alive? what were you able to con videotape to the families? >> look, first of all if the families are realistic. they know the longer it goes -- and one of the things that the local fema personnel as well as the local first responders did is they took all of the families to the site to see what it looked like. they're all realists. they see cement upon cement upon cement. when i talked t

i met with debbie wasserman schultz and the surviving families, they were very, very upset but they had understood the depth and gravity of this situation and how bringing this building down helps you to clear the way to jump on the pile 100%. we were restricted to about two thirds of the pile because of the looming danger that building presented. i'm glad it's down. the governor and i greed it should come down right away. the mayor of dade county had been given information that it would be three weeks. we reached out and urged her to go quicker. she found the answers we needed to get to get that building down as soon as it was brought down. now we are 100% focused on bringing out the surviving victims of this collapse. >> are we still in the rescue phase of this operation almost two weeks in? >> we will be in the rescue phase until we bring everyonous, as far as i'm concerned. i keep reciting there bbc study that looked at survivability in rubble. in bangladesh they brought out a lady crying after 17 days. we're not near that. in my opinion, there should be no talk about rescue. that i

representative debbie wasserman schultz talked in the press conference about how demolition can be a spectacle people wanted to see from the street. instead this was the furthest thing from it. people were told to keep inside, and this demolition, a moment of collapse was just a continuation of the tragedy, jim. >> natasha chen, thanks so much. joining me now is a structural engineer, surfside's designated investigator of the condo collapse. he was also part of the investigations after the 9/11 attacks at the pentagon theand bombing of the federal building in oklahoma city. thanks so much for taking the time this morning. now that they've taken down the rest of the building there and it allows access really to the entire site, not just to recover bodies but also to continue the investigation, how much of a difference does that make going forward? >> well, the deal is that you still have a pile of debris whether it's the original debris or the new debris on top of the original debris, or the new debris on top of itself. it's incredibly dangerous for the rescue workers and the people t

i think we also need to thank dearly senator marco rubio, governor desantis and debbie wasserman schultze been fighting extremely, extremely hard for us and for the rest of the families, and they were there as well and giving everyone a lot of support and since i think they have put in an extreme, extreme amount of effort as well as all of the first responders on the ground. >> you have the entire israeli team -- >> were you able -- go ahead, kevin. >> okay. just the whole israeli team and their technology that they met with us, designing out the apartment and doing their forensic analysis is really important. and we conveyed both to the president about how important that effort is and for him to support that as well. >> kevin, were you able to tell the president and the first lady about your loving wife, judy? i know you have been married now for almost 40 years. >> thank you so much for having that question. absolutely. judy is an amazing person. she, as you know, philanthropic heart, a big heart and all of her efforts. the president and both jill were extremely compassionate about all

representative debbie wasserman schultz yesterday described how this is really the furthest thing fromhat. >> very tragic situation not only for those who are still hoping to find loved ones that have survived but also to survivor families who got out of the building and all of whom's belongings are in that apartment building. and so this is tragic, not a celebration, not a spectacle, and we need to think about the loss, the further loss that the demolition of this building means for all of these families. >> reporter: the families of 121 people still unaccounted for, and of course families already mourning the loss of 24 confirmed people who have died in that collapse. and the mayor of surfside did say this coming storm elsa may not directly hit this area but it could van affect with high winds affecting the search and rescue mission. he said that that may have been a blessing in disguise creating the urgency for this discussion to safely bring this building down so that search and rescue teams could be safer in continuing their work, john. >> thank you very much, natasha. >>> and thi

>> yesterday i met with debbie wasserman-schultz and the families who escaped that building with their lives and listened to what they had to say to us and listened to their concerns. i've been able to address some of them. but we'll continue to work at our very, very best, our very best effort to make sure that they get what they need in the form of support from the federal government, the state government, the county government and the local government. we're all working together. it is a symphony of effort. i've never seen anything like this. all of the politicians are focused on supporting the families and getting everybody out of that rubble pile and reuniting them with their families. it is really a beautiful thing. there is a lot of love here. there is a lot of love here. >> that outpouring of support from the community and that unity, a silver lining in this tragedy, no question. mayor one more question about the demolition. i spoke to an engineer, a structural engineer over the weekend who said that it could have some impact on the investigation, on the ability of investigator

joining me now, congresswoman debbi wasserman schultz, dccc cochair and former chair of the democraticpac. thank you very much both for coming to "the sunday show." congresswoman, i will start with you. you are charged with the team with not only holding the seats in the majority the democrats have in the house, but recruiting people to help increase those seats. how is that going? >> well, it's going extremely well. and actually, given the normal inertia that is difficult for a president's party in a midterm election, i will tell you that i'm surprised that we have had so many incredible candidates step up this early, especially in the face of a redistricting year. but, jonathan, when you're looking at the contrast as a potential candidate between going back to the horrors of the trump presidency in which republicans are continuing now to suppress the vote, to stop people from being able to recover from covid, completely stand against helping our economy recover and doing everything they can to prop up an authoritarian, contrasted with democrats under joe biden who got shots in arms,

again, i think the governor, i think my colleagues, senator scott, senator rubio, i think debbie wasserman schultz for theirfellow americans. so may god bless the victims and their families, may god protect our first responders, and i will take a couple of questions right now. the neck mr president, what were you told today about the likelihood you had said hope springs eternal, but that someday— hope springs eternal, but that someday will be able to be pulled out safely because max— out safely because max president biden giving _ out safely because max president biden giving his _ out safely because max president biden giving his thoughts - out safely because max president biden giving his thoughts after i out safely because max president biden giving his thoughts after a l biden giving his thoughts after a long day down there in miami. he is about an hour late to that press conference and he has been with the families, i think, for around two to three hours this afternoon. they are going through hell, he said, he spent a lot of time speaking to each and every single person. all of them with such

in debbie wasserman schultz and many other members. but it is challenging to be thwarted in voting and to ignore the constitution of the 13th, 14th, and 15th amendments. so today, i want to proceed to what i think is a necessary agenda that is so important to this nation. so you'll hear me talk about so many different aspects of the issue of governance, why voting is so important, and why we need to close the social and racial divide, or racial and social equity should be intertwined. so let me emphasize, you will, the enormous difference that what we are going to be working on over the next couple of weeks is going to make in lives. and that is of course the child tax credit. i just want to briefly, because votes and the winning of the majority in 2020 of the house and senate by democrats and of course the new president and vice president led us to the ex-panned and improved child tax credit. it is a historic change that is a lifeline to the middle class and cuts child poverty. it provides children and their families with additional p

your sister is debbie wasserman schultz, people on both sides of the aisle have a lot of affection for. thank you very much. would you please give us your testimony? >> thank you, chairman durbin, and ranking member grassley, senator booker and members of the committee for the opportunity to appear before you. it's an honor to testify as vice president for policy for the national association of assistant u.s. attorneys. i am here on nasaa and it represents 6,000 federal prosecutors and civil attorneys across the 94 judicial districts. we stand firm in our oath to protect the innocent and prosecute the guilty. we are guided by the constitution and we will always enforce the laws of congress equally and fairly. to that end, we are not here to support or oppose any legislation, but rather provide practical insights into our experience in the field and on the front lines of our nation's justice system. while the underlying rationale behind the equal act is that powder cocaine and crack cocaine should be treated the same for purposes of sentencing. make no mistake powder cocaine and crack c

i think debbie wasserman schultz, for their trouble and --total and complete cooperation.here is no disagreement, no bickering. everyone is on the same team. it is what america is all about. host: that was president joe biden in south florida. front page of "usa today," the grief stricken family members awaiting anywhere. "it would take a miracle, as the time continues to dwindle. the threat of instability eating away the hope for rescues in florida. the operation was halted yesterday because of building movement and concern that the other tower was about to collapse. in confirmation of two children, one 10, one four. their parents also died in that condo." front page of "usa today." joe is next from alabama, republican line. good morning, joe. caller: well, didn't have any republicans when they investigated trump for the russian conspiracy, so i guess they are not going to have any republicans on this, either. also, it's really strange when cops shoots a black person and kills him, the news has names of the cop, where he lives, for hours. and here this cop murdered a prot

your sister is debbie wasserman schultz, someone who people on both side of the aisle have a lot of affection for. thank you very much. would you please give us your testimony. >> thank you chairman german, ranking member grassley, senator booker, members of the committee to appear before you. it's better to testify for national policy for assistant u.s. attorneys. i'm here today solely in my individual capacity with nelson, and not on the dpa behalf of the u.s. attorney's office. nulsa more than 6000 sold prosecute secures, across altered did -- we stand for an oath to protect the innocent and prosecute the guilty. we are guided by the constitution and will always enforce the laws of congress equally and fairly. to that end, we are not here today to oppose or support any legislation, but rather provide practical insights into our experience and field in the front line of our nation's justice system. while the underlying rationale between the equal act and powder cocaine crack cocaine should be treated same for the purposes of sentencing, make no mistake, powdered cocaine and crack cocaine ar

to market fast, employee competition, and make sure -- >> the gentlewoman from florida, debbie wasserman schultzd for five minutes. >> the company's shared decision making and profits does commercialization include special papers? >> it does. as a breast cancer survivor, the policy is personal to me. i want to put a drug on the screen on how to list price. astrazeneca was listed at $9:a talent. she has raised the price of the kroifrds pandemic. >> the current is around oornd. it's price uchld ld. dr. did he say sell heim, i'd like your taechbttle first that no one pays the direct price of a dind bug. doctor, is that sflu. >> that is not true and we just led a boom smoegly high deduct you believes or oy much. >>ly pausht out of pocket cost are tied to the list price. my familiarity, the whole notion of cost shipping is that when you go to the hospital and you are a patient that doesn't have coverage, you are charged the full list price. that cost shifting occurs because uninsured patients are not able to afford the price and then the price goes up for all of us. does that make sense? >> yes. >> t

. >> the gentlewoman from florida, debbie wasserman schultz, is recognized for five minutes. >> the company'son include setting prices in the u.s.? >> it does, yes. >> thank you. as a breast cancer survivor, the exceptionally high cost of cancer drugs is an issue where the policy is very personal for me. i want to put on the screen a graph showing how the list price of the drug has changed over time. it was priced at $91 per tablet. abbvie took a 7% increase in each of the last two years as millions of americans were struggling with the coronavirus pandemic. the current price is 165 per tablet. i'd like your help dispelling two myths that pharmaceutical companies continually perpetuate about drug pricing. first, they insist that no one actually pays the so-called list price of a drug. is that true? >> that is not true. we just published an article led by my colleague dr. rome showing that when prices go up patients that have high deductibles or other kinds of limited insurance can feel substantial increases in prices. >> isn't it true that unemployed patients pay the list price, patients' out

thank you and i yield back >> the gentlewoman from florida, debbie wasserman schultz, is recognized forts its cancer drug with jansen biotech, so the companies share decision making authority and profits. abbvie leads the drug's commercialization efforts in the united states. mr. gonzalez, yes or no, does commercialization include setting prices in the u.s.? >> it does, yes. >> thank you. as a breast cancer survivor, the exceptionally high cost of cancer drugs is an issue where the policy is very personal for me. i want to put on the screen a graph showing how the list price of the drug has changed over time.ca at its launch in 2013, it was priced at about $91 per tablet. as you can see, since just 2013, abbvie has raised the price of the drug ninete times. abbvie took a 7.4% increase in each of the last two years, as millions of r americans were struggling financially because of the coronavirus pandemic. >> the current list price is $165 per tablet, and an annual course of treatment is priced at $181,000 to $242,000 per patient, depending on how many' tablets a patient takes daily. dr.