watch. >> debbie, are you ready to fight for your kids, debbie? are you ready -- >> are you ready to fight for your children. >> are you ready to fight for your children? >> are you ready to get your butt kicked? don't touch me. >> are you going to take a cash settlement for the kids? how important are the kids to you, debbie? >> are you ready to fight for your kids, debbie? do you think she's ready to fight? >> i think probably marc, a lot of people would sympathize with what happened to her there. don't you think. >> well, you know, that was the day prior to the day or two prior to the memorial for michael. i mean, her good friend of many, many years hadn't even been put to rest yet. she's trying to have dinner with a couple of friends of hers in a private, quiet setting. people are throwing cameras up in her face, asking her, you know, very personal questions, and they're not being, you know, respectful to a grieving person. >> larry: dr. arnold kline, her former employer and michael's dermatologist, he had this to say about debbie and michael'

plus, debbie' longtime friend is here to tell us about the debbie he knows. that's next on "larry king live." we begin tonight with two of the best journalists covering this case. jim moret, chief correspondent for "inside edition," also an attorney by the way. carlos diaz, correspondent for ex-extra. the new york post has a screaming headline today "cash cow." rowe sells jacko kids to his mom for there are 4 million. what's it all about, jim. >> according to debbie rowe's attorney it's false and demanded an immediate retraction. this is his letter here. four key points. basically said this story is false, malicious, retract it. >> larry: what do you make of it? is the post runs wild? >> here's the thing. the -- this doesn't go to a court until monday. why would they strike a deal so early? i mean, it's great posturing by the lawyers saying, listen, no deal has been struck. even though they're still negotiating, it's a great way for her lawyer to let the jackson family know they mean business. they're not going to settle for something not as much money as she

kids, debbie? ready to fight for your children? are you ready to fight for your children? >> do not touch me. >> nobody touched you here. >> you just did. don't. >> the lawyers of jackson's will have temporary control of the singer's estate. long-term personal attorney and john mclain were given immediate control of the entertainer's assets. >> investigations in to michael jackson's death has taken a powerful turn. they found diprivan in michael jackson's house. >> were you shocked by michael jackson's death >> was i shocked? no. even beforehand, during my time of employment, i had mentioned to close members of my family, like my mother and sister, i expressed to him, i said, i don't think he's going to survive this concert tour. because i said that's too much stress and pressure on somebody like that. >> debbie, are you ready to fight for your kids, debbie? are you ready to fight for your children. >> don't touch me? are you ready to fight for your children? >> do not touch me! >> nobody touch me.

>> debbie, are you ready to fight for your kids? debbie? are you ready to fight for your children? >> don't touch me. >> are you ready to fight for your kids? >> do not touch me. >> nobody touched you here. >> you just did. don't. >> are you ready to fight for your children? >> are you ready to get your butt kicked? don't [ bleep ]ing touch me. >> are you ready to take a cash settlement for the kids? >> how important are the kids to you, debbie? >> the payoff, allegedly $4 million. debbie rowe denying the entire thing. $4 million, once again, for her to give up claims on her children and to go away, to disappear. back to ellie jostad. ellie, what's the final price tag on debbie rowe? how much has she gotten over the years? >> nancy, according to court documents, debbie rowe got a $5 million settlement years ago from michael jackson, and then she was paid another $900,000 for several years after that. >> okay. hold on. did you say $5 million to start with? >> yep. $5 million. >> then $900,000 per year, i believe it was the next four years? >> yes. exactly. >> but ellie, aren't you o

debbie rowe, no money. really? help us understand. >> well, she said that she wasn't interested in any additional money. she had an agreement with michael jackson when they got divorced for spousal surmt. $8.5 million total deal. and she said she didn't want any more money. and nobody took her at her word, i guess. and you know what? this is interesting. it seems as if she -- she always said publicly michael jackson's a great dad. when he died, it changed the deal. she was concerned about her parents -- about who would paernt those children. and she was certainly concerned we know early on about joe jackson and his influence. it doesn't appear that there's any stipulation that keeps joe jackson away from the children. but he doesn't live with katherine jackson. and she, katherine, has the sole rights over those children with respect to guardianship and custody. >> jim, what do we know about visitation? two things. lay out for us the path. has she had visitation? when is the last time she's seen the kids? >> she has

debbie rowe's attorney again is saying this is false, no payoff is going to happen, and debbie rowe is not seeking money. ♪ fourni >>> i'm here to celebrate my son, because he was the largest entertainer in the world. >> father joe jackson reportedly set to force jackson's children on the stage under the name the jackson 3. >> a friend of debbie rowe said she's not just going to roll over and she fully intends to seek custody. >> you've heard michael jackson say countless times how joe abused him. >> i never beat mike until my life. >> she just wants to make sure that they don't wind up like michael jackson at the mercy of joe jackson's belt. >> is this about what's best for the kids or is this about money for debbie rowe? >> debbie, are you ready to fight for your kids? >> don't touch me. >> are you ready to fight for your kids? >> do not touch me. >> nobody touched you here. >> you just did. don't. >> are you ready to fight for your children? >> are you ready to get your butt kicked in don't [ bleep ] touch me. >> are you ready to take a cash settlement for the kids? >> the payoff, a

look. >> debbie, debbie, are you ready to fight for your kids, debbie? are you ready to fight for your children? >> do not touch me! >> nobody touched you. >> you just did! don't. >> are you ready to fight for your children? >> are you ready to get your butt kicked? don't [ bleep ] me! >> debbie, are you willing to take a cash settlement for the kids? how important are the kids to you, debbie? are you ready to fight for your kids, debbie? do you think she's ready to fight? >> larry: think in this case we can understand how debbie reacted there. that was rather rude, wasn't it? >> yes. and, you know, debbie is the kind of person, larry, that really avoided the press as much as possible. and i think that's something that really attracted michael to her. that she was a very private, private person. >> larry: do they think she was going to stop and explain -- that's always funny to me. >> no, i'm sure they didn't. i'm sure they just wanted to get a shot of her. >> larry: is she going to pursue custody? >> i believe that she wants the children. i believe that

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let's get debbie in on it. debbie's with you us from washington. your thoughts? >> caller: i personally feel michael vick as a pro football player is a role model for a lot of young kids. >> yeah. >> caller: and i won't allow my children to attend any of his games. if he's in our area. i really feel that what he has committed is pretty unforgivable, to dot things to an animal that he's done. and i don't believe he should even be playing football anymore. >> wow. >> caller: i'm not saying he shouldn't be allowed to work. but i don't really feel like he should be an individual that i would want my children to look -- >> debbie, don't you think, though -- or i'll ask you this. that michael vick plays football, he'll have a platform. if he can talk to kids about mistakes. if he can talk and bring a message with the humane society to eradicate dogfighting, don't you think that would be a good thing? >> caller: i think it would be a good thing, actually. but you know, how much of it is going to be true? because someone that can commit the kind of crime that he committe

debbie will be allowed visitation, but there will be a child psychologist to help the kids and debbie to be able to integrate together properly. >> bethany marshal, this psychologist chosen by katherine and debbie rowe is going to determine how, when, where the appropriateness of where the visitation of debbie rowe, who, according to reports, the kids don't know that debbie rowe -- the two oldest kids don't know debbie rowe is their mom. >> this psychologist has her hands full. what i would start with if i was treating this family, what have the children been told about debbie rowe? did michael jackson engage in parental alienation syndrome where he said bad things about her? you don't have a mom. your mom abandoned her? what does the situation mean? can debbie rowe communication with mrs. jackson? i would get them to talk to each other and figure out where the communication breakdowns are. can they keep the student schedule, attachment, favorite activities and toys consistent from household to household? most importantly, what do the children want? where are their primary attachments

friend of debbie's.well, i think it is a real bombshell, larry. it is certainly surprising a lot of the things that were said today. >> larry: when did you last have contact with debbie? >> last friday. >> larry: not long ago. how is she doing? >> i try to talk to her every day. >> larry: has she seen the children? >> no. not yet. >> larry: what does she plan to do? custody hearing has been postponed, right? >> correct. it is my understanding the family would try to work something out. i believe that is what the judge said in open court. that's always the best thing to do in a family situation is to have the parent, the grandparent sit down and talk about what their concerns are, what they might be afraid of. >> larry: what does debbie want with her children? >> well, obviously she would like to have a relationship with her children. >> larry: not custody? you don't know? >> i don't know if she wants every day hands-on custody of the kids. the thing is when she was married to michael and having children

take a look. >> debbie, are you going to fight for your kids, debbie? >> are you ready to fight for your children? are you ready to fight for your -- >> do not touch me! >> nobody touched you here. >> you just did. don't! >> are you ready to fight for your children? >> are you ready to get your butt kicked? don't [ bleep ] touch me. >> are you willing to take a cash settlement for the kids? >> how important are the kids to you, debbie? >> are you ready to fight for your kids, debbie? do you think she's ready to fight? >> wow. well, looks like debbie rowe is primed for a battle here. whether it's with the paparazzi or perhaps with the jackson family over these three kids. let's begin with you, jane. watching that video, seeing debbie rowe, we haven't heard from her yet. and she looks like she's fired up. >> she certainly could argue that she would be a stern disciplinarian to the kids after that video, but i don't know that that's really the argument she wants to make. frankly i think it's appalling she's even considering seeking the custody of young chi

>> i think the jackson family doesn't know debbie. michael knew debbie. don't think katherine has ever met debbie as far as i know. i don't think joe has ever met debbie. i don't know about the brothers and the sisters. i think they don't know her so they are fearful she might do something or say something. >> larry: she blew up at some paparazzi last week. did that surprise you? >> no. it is not in her character to blow up. it didn't surprise me to see a pack of photographers on her heels and for her to make a comment like that. i think she has been very upset. i have spoken to her about it. she has had the paparazzi camped outside of her house. >> larry: still? >> still. still. >> larry: how has all of this changed her. you knew her before michael? >> yes. i knew her before, during and after. >> larry: people don't change, circumstances change. how has she changed? >> debbie is still the same caring, loving person. debbie has always loved those children. i want to tell you something about her kids. she used to ha ed td to have pir house of herself and h

how important are the kids to you, debbie? >> she basically sold them for $8.5 million. >> bombshell charges leveled tonight. charges that michael jackson was murdered. out to paul vercammen, our producer in l.a. paul, what can you tell us? >> i can tell you this on background. la toya jackson sat down for four hours with this reporter last thursday and began discussing what she thought was, quote, the murder of michael jackson. she was pressed hard. that's a very strong term, obviously, nancy, as you know it. she said, yes, i want to say i believe my brother was, quote, murdered. she went on to say there was a shadowy entourage she believes was involved in all of this. she also said her brother was worth more than $1 billion. talking about that entourage, other people said all along there were a group of security guards and other people who watched michael jackson, and i guess what la toya is implying is not only did they turn a blind eye to drug abuse going on, but might be enabling michael jackson. >> murder charges being l

i spoke to a friend of debbie rowe's and he said he fully expects debbie rowe to go for custody. joe jackson is talking about helping raise the children is a problem for her since michael jackson had a terrible relationship with his father. this friend told me that debbie rowe said and i'm quoting here, he said this about her, she is not just going to lay down and roll over, he said. maybe they are trying to come to an agreement out of court and the public kwli and that is why the hearing is delayed. we'll have to wait and see if this gets ugly. >> randy kay, we'll check with you. weigh in on the live chat ac360.com. randy says it doesn'tlessen the chance for fireworks. there are potential complications. we will dissect those with "inside edition"'s jim moret and sanjay gupa and erin brockovich with a story that is mind blowing and how badly the victims are hurting. >> death. cancer. everyone here deserves a future. you know? this tums goes to work in seconds and lasts for hours. all day or night. new tums dual action. bring it on. mr. evans? this is janice from onstar. i have re

>> my name is debbie. >> debbie is a perfect example of somebody who, in a country this wealthy, be able to provide coverage for her health care problems. what we don't want is a situation where debbie gets worse and worse because she is not getting treatment and then ends up having to go to the emergency room. as i said before, all of you will pay for it anyway. it is just that you will pay for it in terms of a hidden subsidy, and she is not getting the best care, and we are actually paying more than we would have if debbie right now was getting treated on a regular basis by a physician who knew her history. debbie, you are example a, and we appreciate you sharing your story. we are going to try to find ways to help you immediately. but the long term problem here is going to be how do we create a system in which debbie is getting the preventive care that she needs and is able to get regular check ups, is able to get treatment in a way that is much more cost efficient than the one we've got right now, and i'm going to make a commitment that we are going to get that done this year. all ri

>> does debbie, does debbie. >> i think debbie has a case. i'm not sure it's that strong.to add, the judge had a nice theme, how smart the jacksons were. i also want to say it's easy to sort of dump on michael and make a soap opera out of his life and is death and so forth. i ti he was not only smart in the sense this is good legal paperwork, he was also loving. he thought about these children. it looks like he has financially provided for these children. he thought about the issue of guardianship and i think a judge is going to give that a lot of weight. debbie has some questions. the questions you raised about what's going on with the father, the grandfather, that's a big question, and it may be that katherine will have to prove that he's either a safe figure to be around these young children or she's going to stake steps to protect the children from anything that he might do. so, lots of questions. i think debbie has standsing to go into court, an uphill battle, lots of things could happen, including a split custody in which she sees the kids some but not too much of th

debbie cared for michael, debbie carried the children.e as that. >> reporter: their first child was a gift debbie said she wanted to give michael. the baby was delivered on february 1th, 1997 at l.a.'s cedar sinai hospital. >> we were ver excited. michael was definitely more excited than i was. he was welling up. and the look on his face. >> reporter: the king of pop doted on a son they all called prince. a little over a year later he was joined by a sister. >> we called her the little princess. then she came out, he touched her head. he was able to be more hands on, you know, because there weren't that many doctors. it was more what a normal delivery is. >> reporter: within moments of her birth, michael took paris, rushed her from the hospital room and to his home, reportedly not even waiting for doctors and nurses to clean the newborn. while michael and the baby went home, debbie rowe once again went off alone to recuperate. barely a marriage, not even a partnership, debbie said she never led with michael during either of her pregnancie

latoya is quoted as saying in the article, these are not debbie's kids. they don't know she is their mother. like everyone else in his life she was motivated by money. we tried to reach debbie rowe through her attorneys but our calls were not returned. the paper said latoya said i believe michael was murdered. she used the word murder. according to the article latoya blamed a shad dowy entourage and his handlers saw him as a cash cow and fed him addictive drugs to control his moods. here is what the reporter who interviewed latoya told larry king about the control his handlers appeared to have. >> joe jackson went to the front door on many occasions they wouldn't let him in. when latoya called the house she couldn't speak to her brother. this is all very suspicious. >> did this article in "the daily mail" offer any information about the circumstances surrounding his death? >> the reporter said jackson was not found in his bed. as you know, that has been widely reported since day one. he was in a nearby bedroom belonging to his personal physician, conrad m

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she and jackson divorced in 1998. >> what about debbie rowe?r was she just a surrogate? >> she is the biological mother. >> for years, neither rowe, who gave up custody, nor the pop star had ever divulged if the children were conceived through artificial insemination or if jackson was the father. >> what do we know about whether jackson is, in fact, the biological father of the three children? >> he's not the biological father of the three children. >> he was so adamant about, i will pay any amount of money for someone to help me to sleep. and i said, you don't have to pay me anything, but you don't do this. but he was so adamant, i don't care what it's going to take, i'll pay any amount of money to get eight hours sleep. that was my last conversation with him. i said, you know, michael, instead of -- just something came over me, and i had tears in my eyes and i've had these tears ever since that day. and i said, something came over me, i said, michael, you keep wanting to sleep, you keep saying you want to be knocked out and sleep, but what ab

but in 2005, debbie rowe's parental rights were restored. this game. >> the thing is, ray, regardless of what any of us may think, all right, it is what he put in his will. that was his decision to name a nearly 80-year-old woman -- speaking of diana ross, here she is in her latest video. oh, that's a police car dash cam. sorry. that's at her dui arrest, where she -- the alphabet, ray, said, a, b, g, g, whatever. >> that's right, nancy. and, again, i agree, miss rowe has a strong hand. and the judge is going to do what was just said, what's in the best interest of the children. last thing, custody is not all or nothing at all. there's partial custody. there's split custody. you might see a wise judge -- >> put >> yes? >> the only time you have split custody is when there's no alternative. when you're trying to make the best out of a bad situation. >> and that may be in a solomon-like decision that this judge finds is in the best interest of the children. that's the overriding mantra. >> but why? >> -- of something, guidice? solomon? solomon?

we learn debbie rowe agrees not to fight for custody. but, what's the pay off. >>> in a stunning twist, father, joe jackson, is set to force jackson children on the stage, under the name the jackson 3. sending them on the road for world tour next year. this, after jackson revealing physical abuse, beatings at the hand of his own father, joe jackson, keeping his own three children far, far away. father joe says he, himself, will raise jackson's children and now put him on the stage. has jackson's worst nightmare come true? after we learn jackson's body was hidden in a crypt, many question, how do you lose a casket with 20 helicopters hovering and thousands watching? the casket exits an arena. was the body ever in the casket or was it smuggled out there a secret underground tunnel while fans mob a black hearse with the body. a portion of jackson's brain, missing from the body, with held for testing. >>> father joe and is jackson brothers pushing ahead with burial in the backyard of neverland for a graceland like burial theme park. a second

debbie rowe will get millions to drop a custody battle. live with new details on both fronts ahead. >>> the motive for murder, a florida couple who adopted more than a dozen kids. why were they killed? authorities have some answers. they reveal the depth of the shocking crime. >>> we trace michelle obama's roots. >>> stuck in the edit room, apparently we're having trouble getting it to air. we're going to turn to the drama in the michael jackson story. on two different fronts, today the los angeles coroner's chief investigator visited the office of jackson's dermatologist, igniting a new wave of questions. a new battle erupted over the report debbie rowe and the jacksons met a custody deal. randi, take us through this back and forth over the custody issue of his kids today. what's going on? >> it was quite a day. we reported on "360" there was a deal being brokered behind the scenes by attorneys for katherine jackson how to get debbie rowe out of the custody picture. our source told us rowe stands to be paid, quote, many millions. today "t

he told me he fully expects debbie rowe to go for custody. joe jackson is talking about helping raise the children is a problem for her since michael jackson had a terrible relationship with his father. this friend told me that debbie rowe said and i'm quoting here, actually he said this about her. she is not just going to lay down and roll over, he said. maybe they are trying to come to an agreement out of court and the public eye and that's why this hearing has gotten delayed. we'll have to wait and see if this gets ugly. >> randi kaye live for us in l.a. weigh in on the live chat ac360.com. i'll log if on the next block. >>> there is a court hearing, as we just mentioned, postponed. it doesn't lesson the chance for fireworks in the battle for michael jackson's children. lot of potential complications here. we'll dissect those with "inside edition's" jim moret and sanjay gupta and erin brockovich with a story that is mind blowing and how badly the victims are hurts. >> death. cancer. everyone here deserves a future. you know? ♪ (announcer)

so no challenge from debbie rowe for custody.l custody going to go to katherine jackson once this is all officially approved by the court. that's supposed to happen on monday, and, of course, katherine jackson has had temporary guardianship almost since michael passed away. this is just good news today. >> i would agree. a.j., do we know if money, any type of past settlement, in anything to do with greasing the wheels to make this happen? >> we do know, and the answer is. no i for one say thank goodness. wow, that would have just been ugly, woont it hauldn't it have? that was another thing a lot of people were speculating. she's had some financial troubles and maybe she wanted some money. here is what debbie rowe's lawyer is telling us. he tells us the parties have not sought or agreed to any compensation apart from spousal compensation previously agreed to. apparently this whole thing was pretty amicable. everybody was speculating that it was contentious, that debbie rowe was going to go after katherine jackson, but the lawyer s

michael jackson and debbie ro r are those children's parents, period.he conversations of arnold klein and finding out who the parents are. those children have already been traumatized by the death of their father. >> you can have rebuttal but after the commercial. >> we will get the rebuttal right after this. (pouring rain) i had a great time. me too. you know, i just got out of a bad relatio... it's okay. thanks. goodnight. goodnight. (door crashes in, alarm sounds) get out! (phone rings) hello? this is rick with broadview security. is everything all right? no, my ex-boyfriend just kicked in the front door. i'm sending help right now. thank you. (announcer) brink's home security is now broadview security. call now to install the standard system for just $99. the proven technology of a broadview security system delivers rapid response from highly-trained professionals, 24 hours a day. call now to get the $99 installation, plus a second keypad installed free. and, you could save up to 20% on your homeowner's insurance. call now-- and get the system insta

>> whether that came from debbie rowe, i have no idea. >> could it have come from debbie rowe?solutely. my greatest concern was what was going to happen to the children. i told her i didn't want in the next version of jacksons and these children are bright. they've gone to film school. >> larry: do you think she said something about it? >> i don't know that. all i told her was this, i want her to get active and be the mother of these churn. >> larry: do you think that she has custody? >> i don't know if she has custody. i think i'm very worried that the custody -- the woman who was her nanny was incredible, she should remain the nanny and help raise the children. i worry about the jackson family only because i worry about the father. >> larry: in what way? >> he was very difficult to deal with with michael. they announced his new record label at the memorial. as you remember. and he seems more interested in making money than dealing with the -- >> larry: what do you think of the rest of the family? >> i think janet is wonderful who i happen to know. i know randy. he seems nice

michael jackson and debbie ro r are those children's parents, period. conversations of arnold klein and finding out who the parents are. those children have already been traumatized by the death of their father. >> you can have rebuttal but after the commercial. >> we will get the rebuttal >> we will get the rebuttal right after ok. oomph. i'm a mommy. i love kids! i'm responsible, loving, nurturing. ahhh! yea whooo! no no no no no! don't touch that. [squeak squeak] stop, stop! ahhhhh! whoa! being a parent's a lot of work. where's mommy? >> continuing live with our jackson panel the former publicist and confidante romaine banes stands beside me. spiritual advisor of michael jackson stands with me. judge larry si seidlin. i have to report or i can report to you that aside from the london daily mail stlee other british papers the sun the age and daily mail are all reporting more newspapers presenteding the same story that the children of michael jackson and/or combination of the family will be substituting for their dead father in that series of london co

reached between catherine jackson and debbie rowe. terms and what we know. >> well, we know that michael jackson named his mother katherine jackson as the guardian of his three children. there was some question whether or not debbie rowe, his ex-wife, would try to seek full custody of the two children she delivered with michael jackson. those are the two oldest children. now we're getting word today that there is an agreement on the table between both parties. katherine jackson will retain custody of the three children. they will all remain together. and debbie rowe will have visitation rights. the timing and frequency is still to be determined. they plan to meet a child psychologist. but again campbell, as you mentioned, no money was exchanged. at least that's what we're being told. we know that debbie row hechlt a divorce agreement with michael jackson of $8.5 million. i'm told that is all the money that she will be receiving from the estate. that will is no extra money involved as part of this custody deal. >> jams, what do you thi

debbie rowe worked for dr. klein. that is how michael jackson met debbie rowe. michael jackson married debbie rowe and had two with him. and she would give him custody. that's basically the love triangle as we call it. >> there's another interesting part with this interview with diane sawyer where she asked dr. klein. >> debbie rowe, of course, worked in your office, that's where she met michael jackson. >> absolutely. i wonder, if she wants custody of the children, do you thunk she should have custody? >> i can't make those answers. i will tell you one thing, it has nothing to do with whatever, these are brilliant children, and i want them in no way to be harmed because these are great, wonderful, fabulous children who he loved deeply. >> sharon, if debbie rowe does want custody of these children i'm assuming she's got to act pretty quickly, right? >> you would think so. old tapes of her were on abc last night where she was talking about that she had the children for michael, which by the way, which is what we knew to be the case. they were her gift to him. tha

the lawyer of the debbie rowe is denying custody reports.owe calls the newspaper report false that she's agreed to take $4 million not to challenge katherine jackson's custody rights. but a source close to the family says that katherine jackson's attorney is in a deal to try to hammer out an agreement. reportedly the jackson family wants debbie rowe to give up any rights. >> the family wants her to give up any notion of custody and visitation rights. apparently the family is trying to work out ap nondisclosure agreement. rowe stands to be paid many millions if she agrees to give up any contact and any custody with her two children so the singer's mother, katherine, can actually raise them. >> a child custody court hearing was pushed back from yesterday to next monday. katherine has temporary guardianship of all kids now. should debbie rowe have all or some part of the custody of her kids? or do you feel she should get out of the picture? tell us your views. e-mail address, cnn.com/hln or text views and your comment and name to hlntv. standar

debbie rowe spoke to an l.a. reporter. was talking about getting a restraining order against joe jackson. when katherine and debbie rowe were talking, it wouldn't surprise me if they were getting a court order to seclude joe jackson from being around the kids. >> and you spoke with a source very close to debbie rowe and she had strong views about joe jackson. >> we spoke with a friend of debbie rowe's, who happens to be a former business partner of joe jackson's. he says, absolutely, debbie rowe is the biological children of these mothers. he also says she'd make a great mom. he does believe she's going to go for custody of these children. and she says, these are his words, she's not just going to lay down and roll over. he says she's very concerned about joe jackson and his involvement in raising these children. he's using the word "we" quite often, and you know the will, he leaves the guardianship to his mother, not to his mother and father. and rowe said she would consider getting a restraining order against joe jackson

that was video of debbie rowe. is confirming tonight a source to the michael jackson family and with knowledge of the investigation is saying dr. conrad murray did, in fact, administer the powerful drug that authorities believe killed michael jackson. now, dr. conrad murray has not been labeled a suspect, even a person of interest, but he has been at the center of two search warrants executed last week into an investigation into the crime of manslaughter as it says on the search warrants. out to sherry lynn lee, a special guest. the former nurse to michael jackson. first of all, miss lee, thank you so much for joining us. what is your reaction to the news tonight. >> well, it's very shocking. and i'm still very torn about hearing what's happening even at this point in time. >> i'm sure. because you in a sense had been close to it. you knew michael jackson. has law enforcement contacted you at all since you voluntarily handed over reports from your office? >> yes. >> since i volunteered to hand over reports, no i ha

we're talking about the two oldest children, those debbie rowe gave birth to.ord of an agreement, katherine jackson will retain custody, debbie rowe will have visitation rights. the timing and the frequency of visitation will be determined by a child psychologist. the fees for that psychologist will be split by both parties. speaking of money, we should point out, when debbie rowe gave michael jackson full custody of the children when the divorce was final, in return she got paid $8.5 million. that was the settlement. i'm told no money was exchanged as part of the custody deal. this was a separate deal from the divorce agreement between jackson and rowe from years ago. as far as we're being told, anderson, debbie rowe did not sell her children as some had accused her of doing. >> randi, thanks very much. >>> a senior legal analyst, jeffrey toobin. what do you make of this, that the search warrant said they were looking for things, such as prescribing to an addict. >> dr. murray was only michael jackson's doctor for about two months. >> he was the hired gun brou

he treated jackson, touredded with him and even treated debbie rowe. counseled for write fraudulent prescription for michael's sister janet. and doctor around cline was also mentioned, reportedly the sperm donor to two of jaix son's -- jackson's kids. also another doctor linked to half a dozen a-list celebrities. desperate for pain medication, jackson is believed to have used aliases to obtain his prescriptions. names like jack london. he also used the name of a bodyguard and a former manager. numerous bottles found in his home after his death, deprivan. they will be questioned by detectives. >> yes, sir, i need an ambulance as soon as possible, sir. >> reporter: authorities will be combing through their files and computer to determine what drugs were obtained by the late icon including doctor murray who failed to revive jackson the night he died. >> just incredible, along with the allegation that dprution not removed from the home, because there was a delay and a hearing tomorrow? >> yes, tomorrow there will be a hearing in the los angeles superior co