debby clarke: well, it is a bit annoying.oyed when you cannot influce a foreign government. doug clarke: i mean, we can't do trade at any cost. i mean, we got to uphold, you know, our principles and the principles of the australian way. we don't want to lie down in a fetal position and get cked to death. we need to stand up and fight back. stephen: australia is challenging china's tariff at the world trade organization. dan tehan: it might take one or two years for us to resolve it, but the principle of it is incredibly important. we want to go to the umpire, and we want to get a decision from the umpire, whether the actions being taken are right or not. if we don't have organizations like the world trade othe rule of the jungle.o to, then it's basically stephen: barley was the start of a slew of trade allegations and sanctions that followed a souring of relations between canberra and beijing. female: the foreign minister, marise payne, is refusing to be drawn on whether she trusts chinover its handling of the coronavirus pan