we are also joined by debby lerman from the san francisco human services med network. and opponents of the measure. thank you both for being here. i would like to start with some opening remarks. we'll start with you, first debbie. >> thank you, maxine. our organization has officially opposed this measure. last year we worked very closely with the board of supervisors, which was amending the current legislation on direct lobbyists and the board shows unanimously to exempt nonprofits from the legislation because of the potential showing chilling effect on nonprofit advocacy. the city relies on a diverse strong nonprofit sector on the front lines of healthcare, safety net environmental issues and other social issues. this legislation this ballot measure, will cause nonprofits to be afraid to engage in advocacy. i have worked for many many years with nonprofits that have misconceptions around the concept's role was. many things are not even allowed to lobby the irs increases its scrutiny of nonprofits that do expensive lobbying. the foundations hesitate to fund him and we

we are also joined by debby lerman from the san francisco human services med network. and opponents of the measure. thank you both for being here. i would like to start with some opening remarks. we'll start with you, first debbie. >> thank you, maxine. our organization has officially opposed this measure. last year we worked very closely with the board of supervisors, which was amending the current legislation on direct lobbyists and the board shows unanimously to exempt nonprofits from the legislation because of the potential showing chilling effect on nonprofit advocacy. the city relies on a diverse strong nonprofit sector on the front lines of healthcare, safety net environmental issues and other social issues. this legislation this ballot measure, will cause nonprofits to be afraid to engage in advocacy. i have worked for many many years with nonprofits that have misconceptions around the concept's role was. many things are not even allowed to lobby the irs increases its scrutiny of nonprofits that do expensive lobbying. the foundations hesitate to fund him and we