john clune, the lawyer for debbie ramirez, tweeting this from debbie ramirez, quote, thinking of youne. they want us to feel alone and isolated, but i'm there, wrapping my arms around you, and i hope you feel the people of this nation wrapping their arms around all of us. holding you up in spirit. that from debbie ramirez. >> and once again, the more that this hearing becomes about that, about the movement of women who are sick and tired of men abusing, harassing, degrading them, the more beneficial this is to the democrats, to professor ford, to the debbie ramirezes of the world, and the more it's specifically about brett kavanaugh and the allegations against him, the more it's beneficial to kavanaugh. when president trump comes out and makes it about the movement, he hurts himself and he hurts brett kavanaugh. >> and i know you want to weigh in, senator, but the mood today with the me too movement is a lot different than it was in the early '90s. >> i get that. and i think what republicans believe is that democrats, for partisan and for political purposes, have weaponized the me to

ford or debbie ramirez are taking questions. you're never going to find out what really happened, or you're certainly not going to find out any corroboration. it makes it a lot easier to just ignore these women if they're going to yes the actual women and judge kavanaugh. >> mr. clune, i know you said you want and your client wants to speak to the fbi and would happily do so under pain of perjury in order to have this matter investigated properly. the white house and the republicans in the senate seem adamantly dug in against that process. they do not want the fbi to reopen its background investigation of judge kavanaugh. if they will not budge on that issue specifically, how -- how else would you want to proceed? if the fbi investigation isn't going happen, what do you think should happen next here in terms of having your client treated fairly and having this allegation considered fairly? >> well, first of all, i think that would be a real failure on the part of the senate judiciary committee if they were not to open an fbi inv

ford and debbie ramirez. but to stand up also for sandra bland and just a little girl who right now does not have food in her refrigerator and the ability to live in a safe society where gun violence is not something in her community. all of those issues must come together. if you call yourself a feminist, it cannot just be about one issue. it must represent all of our issues. [cheers and applause] and i will say to you as a black woman and a mother of a 19-year-old young black boy, that black people, black women particularly must be censored in this discussion in order for us to say that anyone is free. if black women are not free, no one is free. [cheers and applause] and i am so proud to bring someone to you today who is not just a friend who i love in general, but a trailblazer, someone new in the spirit of harriet tubman and sojourner truth and so many who came before her decided to stand up and say me too. a long time before it became popular, before the cameras showed up, before people began to talk ab

is it the white house position that debbie ramirez should testify before the senate on thursday? >> i have the same reaction, that is a new position and it's certainly not the position as far as i'm aware of charles grassley, the chairman of the judiciary committee and the republicans who run that committee. everything they have done is to try to keep that hearing as narrow as possible to his word against her word. if this had been a legitimate real investigation, there would be other witnesses. debbie ramirez would be one, mark judge would be an obvious person to call as a witness, you know, the guy who was allegedly part of the assault on ms. ford. i mean, this is -- that's how you do a real investigation is you try to get corroboration or the lack thereof for multiple stories. i have seen no interest on the part of the republicans who run that committee in calling ms. ramirez, but that would be an appropriate way to deal with it, i certainly agree. >> it's also very possible that the president will not second that notion on twitter this morning or later today in that, in fact,

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brett kavanagh's freshman roommate says, i believe debbie ramirez. he also says brett kavanagh was incoherently drunk much of the time freshman year. >> yeah. and now we're in the situation where debbie ramirez, her lawyer telling me tonight what she wants is for the fbi to do an impartial investigation of this matter and she is willing to talk to the fbi under pain of criminal penalty if she lies to them. and she wants the fbi to talk to other witnesses who could testify either to corroborate or not corroborate what it is that she says happened. that's what she wrants. the question of whether or not she's going to talk to the committee itself is all over the place. with the white house saying they want that and apparently these negotiations having started and then republicans essentially not following through on these discussions, them saying they want all her information, but not necessarily to talk to her. i mean, the question about what's going to happen to her story and whether it will be investigated at all is absolutely completely up in the ai

i do believe debbie ramirez's account.they were and hopefully they will speak truthfully to the fbi. >> and liz, you see a college friend of yours on his way to possibly a big job, as big a job as you can get really, and he starts having to talk about his drinking publicly and he understates that it, why wasn't that something you could just let slide? >> because that was blurring the difference between truth and falsehood, and for somebody who is a federal judge and in line potentially to be in the highest court in our country, there can be no blurring of truth and falsehood. there can be no alternative facts. we need somebody who stands by truth and justice. >> and lynn, certainly there are dozens of other yale people who certainly saw the same thing you did at the same parties. they're not coming forward. what made you decide that you couldn't just sit back when you heard brett kavanaugh say these things? >> well, i tend to agree with liz that it's really important for people that feel that there's a need for truth in to

but they do plan to reach out to that accuser, debbie ramirez, to see what story she has to tell, but there's no sense of whether or not she will come for the thursday hearing, which right now is slated to just have two witnesses. just have christine blasey ford in the first panel, brett kavanaugh in the second panel, responding to her accusation that he assaulted her back in the '80s when they were in high school, but nevertheless, very turbulent at the moment. republicans plan to push ahead. the leadership in particular is trying to make the case that this is all appearing to be a political effort to drag down brett kavanaugh with unsubstantiated claims. whether that works with their swing voters remains to be seen. a lot will be determined in the next couple days. >> before you go, can you clarify something for us? this new yorker piece talks about some congressional staff on the hill knowing of these claims and allegations by debbie ramirez, that college student at yale with kavanaugh, before the new yorker story broke. democrats and republicans. what reporting do you have on that

roche, a close friend of debby ramirez, says he has no knowledge of the incident she describes, but thatbelligerent when he was very drunk. >> when he was at yale as an undergrad, he joined a fraternity. >> reporter: haley reported deeply on judge kavanaugh's time at yale. >> this is a fraternity that heavily, heavily drew from the athlete scene at yale. so brett kavanaugh is this guy who liked to play basketball, wrote for the daily news, was a big fan of the crowd. >> reporter: one picture appearing in the "yale daily news" during the years of dke members, but not kavanaugh, raising a flag made from female student undergarments, it indicates the sort of fraternal high jinks some say misogynistic activities carried out by members of dke during judge kavanaugh's time in the fraternity. >> it was sort of a lot of hi jinx and a did h de bauch re. >> reporter: many described dke as a hard-partying fraternity. most had positive memories of kavanaugh, but not all. one woman called him an aggressive, obnoxious drunk, saying his fraternity was misogynistic. one classmate who was in the same sec

speaking of debbie ramirez, president trump is dismissing the claim. she said judge kavanaugh exposed himself while they were students at yale university. kavanaugh denies the accusation. here's what the president said a few moments ago. >> i look at the second accuser and she has nothing. she doesn't even know -- she thinks maybe it could have been him and maybe not. she admits she was drunk. she admits time lapses. >> joining us now from capitol hill, senator, thanks for joining us and let me get your immediate action going after debra ramirez, the second accuser. >> it's good to talk with you. these are serious allegations. many of my colleagues and i are clear. we need to finish the background investigation. the fbi needs to reopen it and take a look at the allegations. put that information together and provide it to the senators so we can have a fair and open hearing and have all of this information before us. >> have you announced how you are going to vote on judge kavanaugh's confirmation? >> i have. like the previous confirmation, i take my adv

ford motor debbie ramirez are taking questions, you are never going to find out what really happenedor any corroboration. it makes it a lot easier to ignore these women and question judge brett kavanaugh. >> mthe white house and the republicans in the senate appear adamantly dug in of that suspect. if they will not budge on that issue specifically, how else would you want to perceive if the fbi investigation is not going to happen, what do you think should happen next here in terms of having your client treated fairly and having this allegation considered fairly. >> well, first of all, i think that would be a real failure on the senate jeb buudiciary commi. the only way that is actually not a partisan process is for the fbi to do the investigation. that would be a failure on the part of the senators if that's the route they decided. if they decided to do something like or not do something like that in just go forward, i would have to talk to the senate judiciary committee of the fact they refused to get on the phone with me and talk to me about what other options they may have in min

ford is saying and now what debbie ramirez is saying. over the last 12 to 14 hours, and that's significant. before that, you did a series of interviews where you said that what clarence thomas was accused of doing happened in the workplace as a professional in the years very soon before he was nominated to a supreme court seat and that what happens in high school should be treated differently. you did feel that way before last night? >> i absolutely -- and i still feel that we have to be very careful, we need to be -- we, as in those of us who support the me too movement, we need to be deliberate and judicious before we start applying labels, before we call someone a sexual predator, i want to make sure we are actually hitting the mark. and i was not convinced that a one-time encounter with a drunken 17-year-old fit that bill. yes, drunken 17-year-olds can make bad decisions but they can then move into become mature, productive, respectful citizens. but in this particular case, the difference was that with clarence thomas, we were talkin

i do believe debbie ramirez's account.ot someone that would come forward and lie, but that's not behavior i witnessed from brett kavanaugh. >> liz, what was your reaction to debbie ramirez's story. >> yeah, well, that was very upsetting because i do believe debbie. she is very honest. she was an innocent person, but i was not able to corroborate that because, again, i wasn't there. but men rarely do those types of things when other girls are around. >> and, lynne, the ramirez, debbie ramirez's accusation is something that presumably the fbi will take a look at this week. do you suppose they'll be able to find anyone who might be a witness to that? >> well, she does recall people in the room and there were certainly people that were referenced in "the new yorker" article although their names weren't given. i could determine who they were and hopefully they will speak truthfully to the fbi. >> liz, you see a college friend on his way to as big a job as you can get really, and he starts talking about his drinking publicly and

ford, debby ramirez or the allegations we've seen in the last 24 hours, there are as many questions, if not more, than there are answers. why wouldn't people want them answered? >> i think what everyone that the table would say is this could have been resolved potentially with mark judge. but they're so afraid to call him. the fact that they did not in a case like this, an issue like this, call someone who is in the room -- how often in a sexual assault case or an allegation do you have a witness? and even a per that's pant, a third person? it's so rare and so should not have done any kind of interrogation of him. even if it's not on camera. just some affidavit with committee staff. preferably with the fbi. is really malfeasance. >> if not for politics, for kavanaugh and his family's own name, i find it striking when brett kavanaugh and his wife ashley did the fox news interview the other night and his wife was directly asked would you want an fbi investigation to clear your husband's name, she looked at her husband, he took the question, and pivoted and didn't answer. >> this is so

the allegation from debby ramirez be sourced. we are seeing signs of that from orrin hatch who calls ramirez's allegations phony. he is pointing a finger to the democrats. >> it is amazing these allegations come out of nowhere at the last minute and not brought up earlier in the process. it is not untypical for our friends on the other side to pull that kind of crap. >> more from phil mattingly on capitol hill. >> reporter: christine, there is no shift in posture. if anything, republicans have gotten more aggressive to move forward with the brett kavanaugh nomination. top republican aides saying to me, one in particular saying, they are more angry than worried about the nomination. believing the allegations are related to a democratic smear campaign. the democrats on the other side of thing saying this is more of a reason to have an expanded fbi background check and hold on the hearing with christine blasey ford, the initial accuser. this is a testimony with enormous stakes for the supreme court nomination and stakes for how the s

that's debbie ramirez. around the time murkowski said that on tuesday, the president forcefully rejected ramirez's allegations. >> now a new charge comes up, it might not be him, there were gaps. she said she was totally inebriated. she was all messed up and doesn't know it was him, but it might have been him. oh, gee, let's not make him a supreme court judge because of that. >> one senior republican senate aide says those comments were not helpful. a source says republicans have tried incredibly lightly to keep moderate gop senators on board. the president wasn't exactly playing along later when he said democrats are playing a high-level con game. pray for brett kavanaugh and his family. >>> president trump returns to the u.n. for a series of meetings with world leaders. benjamin netanyahu of israel, shinzo abe of japan, and britain's theresa may. he will chair a security council meeting focused on iran. tuesday he addressed the u.n. for the second time as president. and after repeated claims that the worl

he came forward today for one reason only, to support debbie ramirez. he said he's trying to do the right thing. he said this is not his story. at uc berkley, waynerema"abc 7 law school professor who spearheaded the recall of judge aaron persky is launching a political action committee to target politicians who commit or ignore sexual misconduct. michele dauber is calling her pack the enough is enough voter project and will aim to block lower level politicians from ascending to higher office. dauber led the campaign that ended with voters ousting judge persky over his sentencing of brock turner for six months in jail for sexual assault. >>> we are getting word of a third woman accusing kavanaugh of sexual assault. attorney michael ah naughty who represents porn star stormed in her hush money case against president trump says he has a client who is accusing kavanaugh as well. ah naughty said she has had multiple security clearances from the u.s. government and witnesses will confirm her account. her name is expected to be released within the next two day

air because that woman says she doesn't challenge the account because she was a classmate of debbie ramirez. >> you have been running ads. part of your focus has been in your ad campaign has been pressuring red state democrats to vote against kavanaugh. at this point, regardless of what happens tomorrow, do you have them? do you think they are all a guaranteed no vote? >> i would be very surprised if any democrats vote for brett kavanaugh after the allegations. i think before the allegations came forward there were a lot of red state democrats considering voting for him. even now they have been very red isn'tre red-i think they will take their time. i will be surprised if any of them say yes to judge kavanaugh who has been now twice accused of serious sexual assault allegations. sg . >> thank you. for coming in. joining me now right now to discuss this further is cnn politics reporter editor at large. chris, do you think the strategy that brian is discussing and democrats are pushing which is they want to stop kavanaugh in his tracks. as brian was talking about -- and then, of course, the f

>> that's correct. >> while you state clearly there are no eyewitnesses other than debby ramirez that corroborates the fact that kavanaugh was in the room, and you have contacted other people that heard about this immediately after. who and what did they hear? >> that's correct. there was another classmate that we find to be credible, and she is not somebody that knows or has been in touch with ramirez, but he recounted the same fact pattern as being told afterwards, and there was another woman recounting the same fact pattern. we have classmates on the record saying this is something they heard about and were e-mailed about prior to the emergence of dr. ford's claim. >> you talk about these yale circles, and brett kavanaugh, and some of the people you talk to in terms of what his behavior was like, and there were people that said they never saw him act like this, and do you have anybody saying something different? >> yeah, we strive to present both perspectives. there were people that had wonderful experiences with brett kavanaugh in college, and we want to fairly represent that, and

the allegation from debby ramirez was thinly sourced. in hatch who calls ramirez's allegations phony. he is pointing a finger to the democrats. >> it is amazing these allegations come out of nowhere at the last minute and not brought up earlier in the process. it is not untypical for our friends on the other side to pull that kind of crap. >> we will not go back! we will not go back! >> a number of swing votes feeling the pressure. protesters gathered monday in the hallway leading to susan collins' office. 128 arrests yesterday. collins says she will not make up her mind on kavanaugh until after thursday's hearing. that scene there in the rotunda. this was remarkable. the fire drill on capitol hill. let's bring in senior writer harry enten. and rachel bade. good morning to both of you. unprecedented display. supreme court nominee still be vetted for the position. going on fox news with his wife for an interview and talking about his growing up. his evintegrity and sex life. i want you to listen to him here with his words. >> when i was in

. >> brett kavanaugh says he and debby ramirez had a friendly relationship but were not friends, is thatow that i would call it a friendly relationship. they were acquaintances, like in college, people have common friends and that's how i would describe it. >> i want to read astatement about the claim made by your client from brett kavanaugh. "the new york times" could not corroborate the story and were calling around to classmates trying to figure out if they remember it. "the new york times" said they didn't run with the story because they did not have an interview with your client, but to the claim your client was calling around to classmates to see what happened, explain that >> yeah, so i mean, debby ramirez was very careful and deliberate about what information she put out there. this happened 35 years ago and so she was careful about talking to other people and seeing if her recollection of certain events was inconsistent with theirs, and if she was misremembering, and she wanted to speak to the new yorker and make sure what she remembered was accurate. >> when she was making thes

these all -- the question remains for grassley's staff whether or not they will bring forward debbie ramirez, the woman making that allegation, or how they'll pursue this further. at the moment, no plans to change that thursday hearing between christine blasey ford making that allegation and judge kavanaugh, no word, no expectation of any outside witnesses, poppy and jim. >> thank you for all the reporting on the hill. let us know what you learn as this all gets updated. errol lewis is here and molly ba ball, on the politics side of it. jennifer, let me go to you first. we heard from the president there, questioning the motives of the accusers, questioning the attorneys. you heard the president speaking there moments ago, he said you should look into the lawyers here. he's clearly pointing to politics. what do you make of the strategy shift? >> i don't think it's helpf fufo them. what you're looking for to tell if a witness is telling the truth is corroboration. it's very hard for the president or anyone else to say someone is or isn't telling the truth before you've had a hearing or any inv

. >> it is notable, we think, that the president is open, as sara sanders says, to having debby ramirez testify on thursday. that is not something we have heard from anyone on the senate. thursday is the day that brett kavanaugh and christine blasey ford will appear before the judiciary committee. that happened allegedly when they were in high school. brett kavanaugh says it never happened, and he gave this unprecedented interview in his own defense. >> joining us, a washington post white house reporter, new reporting about how president trump is managing these crises. good to see you. here's what you wrote yesterday. it was really interesting insight. you said over the weekend at two of his favorite haunts, the president mused about wanting to inject some new chum into the news cycle to deflect the spotlight from brett kavanaugh. what's so fascinating about this, josh, is this is what's long been speculating to, which is the president detonates a grenade somewhere when the news cycle is not to his liking and everyone runs off in that direction, and it seems that you are getting sort of

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mostly he says he wants to back up debbie ramirez. >> all right. wayne freedman, reporting live in berkeley. thanks so much. >>> calls to the national assault hotline spiked after christine blasy ford accused brett kavanaugh of sexual assault. there was a 57% increase in calls friday to sunday. the rape, abuse, and incest national network runs the hotline and says the victim service program is now helping about 22,000 people per month. stories like this can bring up emotions and trigger some memories. to find your ally, go to our website, abc7news.com/takeaction. there are links to resources on sexual assault and harassment. >>> a man accused of being the norcal rapist came face to face with two women. carlos spoke with some of waller's accusers at court today. >> reporter: roy charles waller shook his head as a judge read him the 12 counting he's been charged with. >> he needs to be locked up until he learns what it is to be a human. roseland anderson escaped from the rapist in 1997. >> i was the only one who saw his face for a really long time, a

reporting on the allegation, for anyone just joining us, let's walk through what this new, what debby ramirez come forward in the "new yorker" and in our reporting, to say about what happened with judge kavanaugh. and then of course your take on how this is going to impact the process. >> what we know is a woman, debby ramirez, now lives in boulder, colorado. she went to yale undergrad with brett kavanaugh during the same years, 1983 to 1987. as far as nbc news' report something concerned, we learned from several sources, that during those college years, kavanaugh had pulled down his pants and exposed himself to ramirez. we reached out to ramirez over the weekend. it was yesterday morning, and she directed me to her lawyer immediately. we haven't heard from her lawyer yet. the new yorker has these details now down, they go further to say that it was at a party, they had been drinking and his pants were down and he thrust himself into her face, forcing her to touch his penis. and she said that when he was pulling up his pants, she remembers his laugh and she felt ashamed and embarrassed and sh

debbie ramirez was hitting in her office when she got a voice mail from a reporter last week for thest time, asking her about something she hadn't even thought about or talked about in many, many years. so if this is some sort of campaign by the democrats so railroad this nominee, nobody has told ms. ramirez. >> chairman grassley said they've tried to secure testimony from ms. ramirez eight different times and you've not made her available. we've been sent the e-mail ex-changes, and we talked about this two nights ago. essentially, the republicans on the committee were asking you specifics on exactly what your client is alleging, if there's anything else that wasn't in "the new yorker" piece, and any other details before they would even agree to have a conference call with you. you were insisting on having a conference call before giving any more information. is that about accurate? >> kind of. we just put those documents out, as well. so if anybody wants to see them, they can read through the e-mails, as well. as you can see initially in the communication, we're looking to figure ou

because it may become a matter of sworn testimony, given to them that if turns out that debby ramirez is right, it could be a very big political and legal problem for him. >> and i should also point out that you of course are one of the co-authors with joe abramson of the book on anita hill and clarence thunderstoromas and th hearings. >> and back to the other major story of the day, the justice department right dead center on both of these issues, the mounting speculation over rod rosenstein's foot nuture now swg around capitol hill, and considering brett kavanagh's confirmation would need to name a replacement for rosenstein. julia, first to you, because there is a scenario under which a vacancy could be filled from another confirmed official under the vacancy act for a certain period of time without a senate hearing on a deputy a.g., but not necessarily, in fact not at all on the mueller probe supervi supervise -- supervision or on another track. >> that's why it matters whether he's fired or if rehe resigns. and we have been having conversations about who would take this job for s

debby ramirez is in an incredibly vulnerable position. you might think she brought her allegation forward in an unfair manner. you might think it's opportunistic. she's in an incredibly vulnerable position right now. for the president to turn his sights on her and say that she was drunk insinuating, therefore, she deserved whatever it is she said happened to her, is fairly go tecrotesqgrotesque >> let's talk about that for a minute. this is a moment that goes beyond the kavanaugh nomination fight, right? >> right. >> there's bad behavior that happens on every college campus and probably every high school community where there's drinking and bad decisions made. we just heard the leader of the free world basically say that if bad things happen, it's a drunk woman's fault at least in part. >> yeah. and i find that to be a horrible thing to say. like i said, the power dynamics are terrible. i guess for donald trump, maybe the idea is that he, himself, has never been punished for these types of allegations when they've been thrown at him. and

. >> we believe debby ramirez. >> i think that women and women's anger has been on display throughoutkavanaugh confirmation process. >> i believe that we can win. >> the protests in the halls of the senate, in d.c., on law school campuses and particularly against men in positions of power. >> reporter: many are hoping that today's demonstrations will send a message to washington. >> they don't want senators to vote to confirm judge kavanaugh and there may be electoral consequences that they may face at the ballot box if they do choose to vote to confirm judge kavanaugh. >> have you had enough? >> yes! >> have you had enough? >> yes. >> reporter: for many survivors today their message was clear. we believe the women. >> let this be a reminder that you are not alone. >> reporter: for emily, dr. ford and ramirez's courage to speak is already an enormous step. >> i would just say thank you and we see you. we hear you and believe you. >> we see you, we hear you, we believe you. >> reporter: for "nightline," i'm linda lopez in new york. ♪ oh, say can you see >> and next, a little girl with

reporting on the allegation, for anyone just joining us, let's walk through what this new, what debby ramirezas come forward in the "new yorker" and in our reporting, to say about what happened with judge kavanaugh. and then of course your take on how this is going to impact the process. >> what we know is a woman, debby ramirez, now lives in boulder, colorado. she went to yale undergrad with brett kavanaugh during the same years, 1983 to 1987. as far as nbc news' report something concerned, we learned from several sources, that during those college years, kavanaugh had pulled down his pants and exposed himself to ramirez. we reached out to ramirez over the weekend. it was yesterday morning, and she directed me to her lawyer immediately. we haven't heard from her lawyer yet. the new yorker has these details now down, they go further to say that it was at a party, they had been drinking and his pants were down and he thrust himself into her face, forcing her to touch his penis. and she said that when he was pulling up his pants, she remembers his laugh and she felt ashamed and embarrassed and

debbie ramirez attended yale with kavanaugh and told the new yorker a man exposed himself at a dorm room party. i remember a penis being in front of my face she told the new yorker and hearing someone yell that kavanaugh did it. no one has come forward publicly to say they were present of the time of any these three alleged incidents. kavanaugh's attorney mtoday said if sy people were present during these parties and the latest allegation, why dn wo someone have said something? >> very common in the '80s. there were very few resources for victims of sexual violence. they were kids underaged possibly drinking or doing drugs being in places they shouldn't have been. >> reporter: three women coming forward ahead of a critical decision. >>> and we have more breaking news on brett kavanaugh just coming in. let's get to nbc' kasie hunt on capitol hill. kasie, whatre you learning? >> tonight nbc news learned the senate judiciary committee is obing an additional anonymous allegation of physical assault against brett kavanaugh. a charge he tells the commit at the denies. it came in a letter that

second accuser saying kavanaugh and his social circle in college were capable of the actions that debbie ramirez described. james roche tells abc station kgo that he knew ramirez in college, and she stood out as being exceptionally honest. roche also said he did not witness the incident in question but he says kavanaugh was a heavy drinker even by the standards of the time, and he describes kavanaugh as normally reserved but says kavanaugh became aggressive and belligerent when he got drunk. >>> all right, let's turn to the other big story in d.c. rod rosenstein's future at the justice department. it does appear to be in jeopardy. the deputy attorney general is, of course, the man overseeing the russia investigation. his future up in the air after he reportedly talked about secretly recording the president. this morning with the fate of deputy attorney general rod rosenstein hanging in the balance, now house republicans are threatening to impeach him. >> i think rod rosenstein needs to be in the witness chair this week in the house judiciary committee. he needs to go under oath and explain these

. >> we believe debbie ramirez! >> reporter: for key republican senator susan collins, the political pressure today came right to her doorstep. >> we believe dr. ford! >> reporter: protesters demanding she vote no on brett kavanaugh or else. >> we believe she can do the right thing. and if she doesn't, we're going to replace her. >> reporter: even before a second accuser came out alleging sexual misconduct by kavanaugh, collins said she wouldn't be rushed. >> do i feel pressure, sure. but i don't feel pressure to make a decision until i'm ready. and by the way, there are, like, seven of us that are undecided, it's not just me. >> reporter: democrats tonight are demanding the senate hit the brakes on kavanaugh's nomination. >> both of these women are bravely coming forward with allegations that i think the judiciary committee should hear and hear fully. >> reporter: but republicans are plowing ahead. orrin hatch says the latest allegations are, quote, phony. >> well, it's amazing to me that these allegations come out

ford and this allegation from debbie ramirez.ly into how this was already on track to potentially affect how women view the republican party. can you break down for us in your view of the potential consequences for the gop pushing forward with this confirmation in light of the new information? >> i think the question is sort of it remains to be seen obviously this pushes it into brand-new territory here but we seen a couple things happen already with the politics of this. already before there were any allegations before any of the sexual allegations emerged what you had was the most polarizing before allegations this was basically about the same number folks were for it as were against it and we saw last week came out a couple days ago after the first accusation that public opinion moved slightly against kavanaugh, was 34% supporting the nomination, 39% opposing it so obviously this immediately raises the question if you throw something else into the mix here is it going to take that opposition and raise it further? because i thi

she was also a roommate of debbie ramirez, a woman who accuses himself of exposing himself to her. brooks says she's disappointed in kavanaugh's hearing and accuses the judge of evading questions about his excessive drinking. >> post the hearing there are a lot of people at yale who are exchanging notes and emails and text messages about how disappointed we are that brett stood up there and lied about who he was and his behavior in college. it's not consistent at all with the brett that i knew. and if he's going to lie about the little things, what about the big things? that's the big question that i have. >> brooks says she never felt unsafe around kavanaugh but accuses him of misrepresenting who he was in college. meanwhile, overnight a jesuit publication withdrew its endorsement of kavanaugh. the decision by "america" magazine came after kavanaugh's testimony thursday. kavanaugh mentioned several times during the hearing that he attended a jesuit high school. >>> and coming up, more on the hearing including the impact it's already having on so many victims of sexual assault. >>>

we believe professor ford""we believe anita hill""we believe debbie ramirez"the new allegations are re-energizing the protests on capitol hill.the chairman of the senate judiciary committee says he'll look into the new allegations but thursday's hearing with christine blasey ford and kavanaugh is still on. intensifying the pressure on republican swing votes, like susan collinsnats"when 15 years old christine tried to scream her attacker covered her mouth so no one could hear her. will susan collins listen to her now?"on and off capitol hillquestion:"has she made a decision about how she will vote on kavanaugh?"collins staffer:"she called for more information, more hearings." woman:"she has enough information, he's a sexual predator." (vicki)a source familiar with the matter says that republican committee chairman senator chuck grassley asked for permission to distribute a letter that ford wrote to him couple of days ago, and ford gave permission. he hasn't released it yet. (catherine) here in the bay area -- a group ralled on the u-c berkeley campus today...in support of the two women accusing ka

debbie ramirez.o have not been named. outreach when various letters and e—mails appeared in the press. e—mails appeared in the press. republicans staff outreach at 10pm the night before the hearing. the night before the hearing. was nothing more than a nefarious attempt at political theatre. attempt at political theatre. i understand why they did that. understand why they did that. the senate is a political body. senate is a political body. kavanaugh take the same tone and strategy. strategy. rhetoric is my republican colleagues. colleagues. —— in that manner and judge brett kavanaugh used. judge brett kavanaugh used. his record and said some democratic members were an embarrassment. members were an embarrassment. wait and replacing advice and consent with search and destroy. consent with search and destroy. president trump and the 2018 election. election. and, revenge on the harse of the clintons. —— on behalf. unbelievable. evenhandedness one would see in a judge. judge. this was someone who was ag

i would say there were two ways for donald trump to deal with the debbie ramirez accusations, assumingcredit them, which is very apparent he does. one would be what he did, sort of vicious attack saying -- suggesting that for some reason if you were inebriated you couldn't possibly account your own sexual assault, which is absurd. the second way would have been, listen, i respect her story, i think she's wrong, let's get to the bottom of it by looking into the facts. and that would have been the sober-minded way to do this. i can't get over the fact that the republican party simply has refused to take that second route with respect to dr. ford as well. we are talking about this, but if you were accused of sexual assault and you knew you were innocent, 100% innocent, you would do everything you could to open up the books on your life. you would call every single person forward, have them testimony, you would ask if not demand for an independent investigation because you would have nothing to hide. and the reason you would do this especially in the circumstances because this is not a cri

what is saying the women were paid but certainly if you look at the story, the new yorker story, debbie ramirezith her lawyer to come the point she wanted to identify brett kavanaugh and that has to be taken into account. jillian: what needs to be said by either party? there needs are so many people out there? we heard multiple times this is baseless, but when asked are you saying they are lying about this, no. this is the confusion for a lot of people. >> i think -- this is the way our american system of justice works, you can't just throw a ton of spaghetti on the wall and say the volume of spaghetti proves something must've happened. we have to evaluate each claim independently. it comes down to facts and evidence. the more evidence we get about each of these allegations the weaker they become. that is why donald trump when you saw him talk in the press conference stand behind brett kavanaugh and that is why brett kavanaugh in his interview with martha maccallum said he's not going anywhere. he has given the information to martha maccallum who will have a chance to address any questions by t

. >> finally president trump yesterday suggested that debby ramirez, who is the woman that says whenhe was a freshman at yale, judge kavanaugh put his gentles in her face which he denies. and president trump said she was messed up at the time and drunk. again, whether or not she was drinking, do you think that is pertinent to her alleged memory of this incident? >> i think what is pertinent, again, it's what occurred and what people remember, what corroboration was there. as i understand it she originally told her friends weeks ago she did not remember it was judge kavanaugh, and everybody else she named that was at the party said it didn't happen. that's the best evidence we have. >> i appreciate you coming on and help clear up some of the statements judge kavanaugh has made in the last few days, and tomorrow is a big day and we know you have been busy, so thanks for your time. >> thanks very much. >> so an interesting walk down the statements from judge kavanaugh. >> yeah, after watching that interview there were more questions, some of them relating to his statements. something th

in this case he suggested that debby ramirez who claims that brett kavanaugh put his gentles in her face messed up at the time. do you think that helps get the vote past the senate? >> i think the president, often if he feels like the point is not getting made he will step in and make the point. the accused in that case doesn't have a clear memory but 35 years later after reflecting it on for six days decides she has a clear memory. >> "the new york times" said they did not publish it because they did not get the interview with ramirez, which "the new yorker" got. i was trying to draw more on your expertise inside the senate. do you think the president going after the accuser helps him win the crucial votes he needs? >> i think we should be focused on probably three votes. i am not sure the president's interference benefits or hurts in that case. he is speaking more broadly to open up the conversation to say, is this witness credible. >> do you think if you are mitch mcconnell, do you wish he would be quiet? >> i am sure the president wants him to stay out and this is fair for him to wei

we have the attorney for debby ramirez. she says kavanaugh put his genitals in her face.ory today. i'm not sure they will have a similar vuchlt tiew. the senator from connecticut will be the democratic senator at the committee. he will join us today. i'm dying to know what the democratic plan is to question the witnesses. we know the republicans brought in a seasoned prosecutor. are the democrats just going to go down that road like they have before and fill up the time with the statement questions or do they have a more organized plan today? >> will it be about the incidents or about his character and integrity and honesty in the hearings and in that fox news interview in particular? john, we very much look forward to the show. thank you. >> thank you. >>> mr. boston, thanks. not exactly "jaws," but check this out. >> whoa! >> we do have to slow that down. >> yes. >> what made a seal launch an octopus at a kayaker in new zealand? how do you win at business? stay at laquinta. where we're changing with contemporary make-overs. then, use the ultimate power handshake, the up

. >> one of the details about debbie ramirez is his laughter. that's what she remembers. >> let listen in. >>> judge kavanaugh, we welcome you. are you ready? i have something i want to clear up from the last meeting that doesn't affect you. so before i swear you, i would like to explain my response to senator kennedy right after the break. at that time i entered into the record the statements of three witnesses dr. ford said were also at the party. these statements were provided to us under penalty of felony, by if you lie to congress. as soon as my team learned the names of these three potential witnesses, we immediately reached out to them, requesting an interview. in response all three submitted statements to us denying any knowledge of the gathering dr. ford described. if we had calls with them, we would have invited the minority to join. every time that we've received any information regarding judge kavanaugh, we've sought to immediately follow through and investigate. the minority staff sat on dr. ford's letter for weeks and staff told us