we'll keep track of that story but we do want to get back to the markets and bring in deborah cunninghamchief investment officer for money markets at federated hermes, a firm that has $659 billion in assets. never a dull moment these days. i wonder how you been approaching the volatility these days. deborah: there is volatility on both ends of the equation. you've got the treasury market being volatile from a standpoint of quality and spreads going low and interest rates remaining low despite the fact that is going to raise rates tomorrow. and then credit products, there really have no credit or liquidity strains, nonetheless are reacting to the volatility that's happening because of supply shortages, inflation, spreads going out. so our reaction at this point is to shorten weighted average maturities to increase our securities and wait it out to get a little bit more guidance from the post meeting tomorrow with chair powell after the first move of what we think is confirmed at 25 basis points in the marketplace. matt: i want to quickly ask you about the new story we got earlier from dow