deborah fuller joins us now. dr. fuller, we are to the testing season.ill this be a normal testing for vaccines, or will this time be different? dr. fuller: this is a very different season for testing vaccines as it has accelerated much quicker than we have ever seen any vaccine tested before. most vaccines would take between five to seven years to go through clinical trials, and what we are looking at here is an accelerated timeline that is 18 months to two years so you can weaken -- so we can get these vaccines up to people as quickly as possible. we are looking for predictions for some of the earliest vaccines to be available and into the population as early as and early into 2021. tom: you say there is no silver bullet. do we assume that there will be a vaccine, and then booster shots were booster vaccines along the way? number of: there's a vaccines being developed, i think greater than 150 current vaccines in various stages of the pipeline. some are in clinical trials. some will enter clinical trials very soon. there's a lot we don't know about thi

we talked to a lot of fancy and of at johns hopkins, course, deborah fuller of microbiology at the acclaimedversity of washington school of medicine. i can't say enough about her accolades. dr. fuller, i want to talk about the guys in the trenches, the people working for you. i want to focus on jesse arrest .ess -- on jesse erasmus someone like jesse erasmus is finding a vaccine, in your case with primates. what does mr. erasmus do every day? erasmus is adr. post-doctorate scholar in my laboratory. he is really a superstar. joined when the study that found covid-19 was published. he thought, hey, can we make this vexing? hourly -- this vaccine? our lab really requires this sequence of the virus to make, so i was like, sure. within a week, he had a series designed and was already immunizing animals within three weeks. so he is a superstar. he's in the lab every day. tom: he is a superstar, like on the tottenham hotspur's in england. i get that. but what would you say to the president today as he starts his virus conference? you guys are the doing of it. what would you say to any given politic