and deborah mack agreed. finally here are the thoughts of nick goodman.spondent for bbc news and co—presenter of brexitcast joins me now from westminster. chris, you have had successful podcast for this for over two years. what was the thinking behind transferring it to tv? someone offered us the chance and that was that and we grabbed it. very aware of the pitfalls are really because as you say, the podcast came about by accident but has become relatively successful in podcast land. and then we thought, we have this chance to put it on the tv, but that is tricky because we don't want it to be a conventional tv show, we want to make sure people who have always listened to it as a podcast don't feel like they have been forgotten or are hitting stop and start again. but at the same time we will be on bbc one and on the bbc news channel, we will get far more people seeing it than have previously listened to it and will be coming at it from the start. the viewing figures, more than a million people saw it on thursday night which is greater than the number who