joyful, i me and i have wrote a paper that preceded this one and her and another black woman at deborah raji wrote this paper called actionable auditing and them. and when they put it out there for the very 1st thing that amazon wanted to do was push back. so v p after v p wrote a blog post trying to discredit them. and me and my colleague mag, mitchell, you know, we're both fired from google. now that we were a google at the time, we spent a whole lot to writing a point by point rebuttal and then and galvanized academic community to come to their support. so we had a whole petition that more than $7080.00 academics including tearing award winners . that's kind of like the equivalent of the nobel prize for computer science reg signed our letter. so we came to their defense, we debunked. we had a point by point rebuttal of what they were trying to say here. and then we all asked them to stop selling recognition to law enforcement. so then that was all over the news and they weren't able to far, there are sort of try to discredit them. but the thing that so what you just saw there is very simi